Contrary to the general belief, Muhammad is not a Muslim name; rather, it is an Arabian pagan name that was in use even before the birth of Islam's founder.

Contrary to the Muslim conviction that Muhammad was originally created by God as a believer in His Oneness, he is reported to have worshipped and offered sacrifices to Al-Uzza, an idol the pagans believed to be one of the three daughters of God (cf. 42:52).

One of the three hundred and sixty idols that pagans worshipped (360 for a calendar year) was called Allah. He was one of their principal deities. This deity was known as Al-Rahman-an (the merciful) and Al-Rahim (the compassionate) to the people of Northern and Southern Arabia.

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In Qura’n there are at least a dozen verses in which Allah repeatedly swears by the names such as moon, sun, stars, planets, night, wind etc. It is a mystery why the creator Allah should swear by his creations rather then in him unless he himself was a pagan God like the Moon.
Sura 74:32 Absolutely, (I swear) by the moon.

Prophet Muhammad performed a clever tactic by adapting many rites of paganism into Islam, in order to accommodate Islam among the pagan Arabs. He made lots of political pacts with the Pagan Leaders such as Abu Suffian to accommodate his new idea of religion and he agreed to incorporate many of the Pagan rituals in Islam.

Prophet Muhammad asked the pagans to worship only the “Allah” the largest God. The Prophet was able to convince the pagans to destroy all idols and on return he agreed to keep the “Names” of the goddess of most famous Pagan tribes as the alternative names of Allah—hence Islam has 99 NAMES of Allah.


The inscription (542-3) of Abraham dealing with the break of the Ma'rib Dam bears testimony to this historical fact.

Prophet Muhammad commanded his followers to participate in pagan ceremonies while the pagans were still in control of Mecca. (Yusuf Ali, fn. 214, pg. 78).

Pagans practices of the Pilgrimage of Kabah once a year--the Fast of Ramadan, running around the Kabah seven times, kissing the black stone, shaving the head, animal sacrifices, running up and down two hills and also adopting the pagan practice of praying to the toward Mecca 3 times a day (morning noon and night).

It is also a historical fact that the Ka’aba, the sacred shrine was used for pagan idol worship before Islam and even called the House of Allah at that time. The name of the God whom the Arabs worshipped was the god of pantheon—Ali-ilah the god, the supreme, the pre-determiner of everybody’s life or destiny—the chief God “Allah”.


While it was true that Muslims do not believe in Allah having a Son (Hence Jesus not being God’s son) it was widely practiced prior to Islam that Allah had three daughters. The third daughter Manat still resides there represented as a black stone.

At times Muhammad had difficulty remembering to stay away from the old pagan gods that his tribe use to worshiped. “Have ye seen Lat and 'Uzza, And another, the third (goddess), Manat? These are the high-flying ones, whose intercession is to be hoped for!” [Qur'an 53:19-23]


The Prophet Abraham could not have built it since it was used as a shrine for pagan Gods until Muhammad cleaned most of it out.


Before he was "called" to be God’s "prophet", Muhammad was an idolator.

Did He not find you lost (dallan) and gave you guidance? S. 93:7

We narrate unto thee (Muhammad) the best of narratives in that We have inspired in thee this Qur'an, though aforetime thou wast of the heedless. S. 12:3

Then Zaid Ibn Amr passed by them so THEY invited him to (dine) at a table they had. Zaid (Ibn Amr) said, "O my nephew! I do not eat what was sacrificed to images and idols."

He then said that he did not see the prophet – pbuh – again eat anything that was offered as a sacrifice to images or idols ...Musnad Ahmad, Hadith Number 1561


Even though their principal shrines lay north and east of Mecca, al-Lat, al-Uzza, and Manat were all worshiped by the Quraysh of Mecca, and at least al-Uzza numbered no less than Muhammad himself among her worshipers. (The Hajj)


Muhammad still had ties to the old pagan Gods. The Prophet slaughtered a ewe for one of the idols (nusub min al-ansab); then he roasted it and carried it with him. What did you sacrifice to, O Muhammad?" "He said, "TO ONE OF THE IDOLS." (Al-Kharqushi, Sharaf al)
Mike

You seem to have no common sense at all. You can see, but not look. You can hear, but not listen. You have read the history but could not study and grasp it. You see the picture of the arabian history but cannot get what the picture means. Dont you know that the arabians were corrupted and diverted from the Path(before muhammad came) by the devil ? It is a genuine fact that Allah has been worshipped as the supreme god and the only and only unique god from the time of adam. But the devil made the arabians diverted from the track and made them make idols of allah, made them make childrens of allah, made them make do pooja to allah, made them do all what ever is contrary to what allah told the mankind to. Allah is unique and is only one. He is enough to share his power with other god. He is enough to have a wife and children (shame on them who tell god not one, who tel god has children, who tell or give hints that god has a wife). He is enough to rule the universe alone. Why should he have children?
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He can do everything all by himself!he is the kindest the greatest the best than all. Anybody who has mercy on you is called mercyful. If allah is the greatest mercyful than all, why cant we call him the mercyful? In this manner allah has 99 names. Muhammad is an arabian word. Our prophet was only given this title. It is not his real name. And a name always denotes which language it is of , not the religion. So it is natural on our prophets part to have a arabian name(it would be unnatural if it were otherwise. Why should your jesus have a greek name while he was a christian and was born in a hebrew milieux?).where did the report come from that muhammad participated in the pagan worshipping? Weren't you reported that he was unconscious at the very idea when he was asked to join them? And where is the wrong that allah swears in the name of the moon the sun while he himself being te creator of them? He can even destroy them now itself if he wills (but perhaps won't because they were made with the purpose to serve the
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Mankind. Then why can not he swear in their names? And only allah knows why he doesn't swear in his name(perhaps because you mightn't have believed it if he swore in his name because he is invisible, he swears in the names of the sun the moon because you can see them and again he is justified in it)(he has left thousands of facts and miracles in the quran unknown to us as if to establish science)
< why didn't u know this history?
< does this makes sense to u?

Your mentality as to who is allah and what was the role of muhammad and islam and what is the quran will be(perhaps ) the same forever as jews were to you your god and your bible.
You are in the same dilemma as the jews were to u.
Try to bear a rational and human head on your shoulder.

You are the one who refuses to see what is before you. How according to you is the koran free from error for there are many contradictions in it. Lets see if you will open your eyes and look at how wrong you are concerning its so called facts of science which it has stolen from other sources.

1 Muslims claim, that a proof the Koran was from God, is that it contains scientifically accurate information about Embryology before man discovered it for himself. However, all the information in the Koran regarding Embryology is copied from three sources, 1. A Greek doctor named Galen, who lived of 150 AD. 2. A Jewish doctor named Samuel ha-Yehudi who lived 150 AD. 3. the Greek father of medicine Hippocrates who lived 400 BC. My question is: in light of the fact that all the information contained in the Koran was already in print by these three doctors, will you retract the argument on Embryology? If not, will you supply one detail revealed in the Koran about Embryology, that was not already revealed or that was new?

2 Muslims claim, that a proof that the Koran was from God is that it contains scientifically accurate information about Embryology, yet in 86:6-7 the Koran says, "man was created from ejected liquid- Proceeding from between the backbone and the ribs". This echoes the scientific error of Hippocrates who believed semen originates, from the brain down the spinal chord, before passing through the kidneys and finally out of the body. (Hippocratic Writings, Penguin Classics, 1983, p. 317) My question is: do you reject modern science and believe the Koran when it says sperm originates from the mid-gut section of a man's body.
Mike

No you forgot that we are two, male and female. Backbone refers to the loins and breast bones to the breasts(tafsir al jalalayn). From the loins comes the sperms which literally created you and from the breasts comes the gushing fluid milk which is indispensable for you to live on. There should be foods for creation if it is created. That's what it is meant. Such types of confusing but clear constructions of the quran is made in order to increase the awe in the believers' mind and disbelief in the mind s of the disbelievers< does it open YOUR eyes?
The quran has the answers.
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I have read genesis 1-11 tonight. What i have found is joke and the notion that the bible is composed by men to amuse the children. The only truth there are :the god, the fact that god is and he created us, there is a heaven. God told mens life span is limited for 120 year s but the peoples of genesis 11:11-23 lived more than 400 years. Bible says Euphrates and tigris are from heaven. Dont you know where it originates from?
Adam was warned that he would die on the very day he eats the FRUIT. But even after eating the fruit he lived for over 900 years. Moreover what is so amusing and unbelievable, and remarkable also is that god didn't even know how and when adam ate the apple.
Besides god is male:you call him father not mother and adam was created in gods image, in his likeness. It may suggest that god was as tall as .... I mean quite same as adam was. Adam had genitals and sperm god also have it. So god begot jesus< is not impossible(for you) and surely, god had intercourse with mary. So i am sure that s why you worship him as an idol. ...........As for your new scientific mentality towards the quran (i have given your answer) i tell u that the quran is not the copy of others.
Some scientifically wrong facts of the bible regarding only the creation of earth: 1 there were waters around when the earth was shapeless(it is apparent that the bible is the copy of the hindu mythology to some extent)
2 it was created 6014 years earlier etc.

You said the facts of quran are copied from three sources.
 
Brother, please provide the so-called quotes from the Greeks and Jews.  I keep hearing this claim but without getting any quote to support this.  Just because the ancients might've said something in this regards, it doesn't automatically mean that latter writings are plagiarizing or stealing from the former ones.  Again, we need the precise quotes that speak this.  Also, the former quotes/writings could be remnents of Ancient Divine Revelations that were sent by Allah Almighty.  So if anything, Islam would've come to confirm them.
 
Now let us get to the real Divine Miracles here, and not the lies and garbage of the infidels.  If you visit this article: http://www.answering-islam.com/detailed_meanings_of_scientific_words_in_verses.htm, then you'll tons of Noble Verses and analysis that clearly demonstrate the Glorious Quran's Divine Miracles on Embryology and many other fields of Science.
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Man created from a drop emitted from between the backbone and the ribs(sura al tariq 86:5-7)
in embryonic stages the reproductive organs of the male and female ie the testicle and the ovaries begin their developement near the kidney exactly between the spinal column and the eleventh and the twelfth ribs. Later they descend the female gonads stop in the pelvis while the male gonads continue their decent before birth to reach the scrotum out side the body through the inguinal canal. Even after the embryonic stage after the decent of the reproductive organ , these recieve their nerve supply and blood supply from the aorta and lymphatic drainage which is the area between the backbone and the ribs.(i regret for posting the answer from my own misunderstanding.) There can be some textual variations between my writing and the source " www.islamicvoice.com/january.97/scie.htm#CREA"
visit this site for more information on embryology. This is the answer for your first two question of the four that you asked recently.

When i told you that the bible is a amusing story book for children you didn't denied it but try a futile attempt to falsely accuse muhammad(s a w) of immorality. As for your question on muhammads marriage with a 'six' year old child. I say he was 100%correct. This is the minimum age that has been estimated when she was only betrothed to muhammad. The age can be even more than that. However, she( Aysha) was nine or older when she was actually married off to muhammad. Now do a simple sum. Muhammad is to aysha as joseph is to mary. We know that mary was 11-14 when she had jesus. As the minimum estimated age of ayshas marriage 9 we take mary's minimum estimated age at the marriage with joseph . Let, she was 11.
Now muhammad/aysha=9/55. So josephs age should have been 67(or 85at best). But joseph was much older than that. Then, if you say that muhammad was not right in marrying aysha, will you also say that the bible, the god, the christianity were all wrong by accepting the marriage between joseph and mary?

However the interesting point regarding this is that Your anchestors (i mean the christians ) of medina could have take the marriage as an weak point in islam and attacked at that point. But they dared not. Then how Can you bleshphemously state that muhammad was immoral?
Was god ( the son of anotier god) justified in coming out through the vagina of a 11 or 12 year old virgin?

Our Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, married the women (our Mothers in Islam) during the partial days of Islam.  Islam's Laws were not all laid down, fully.  Islam was not complete, yet.  Allah Almighty forbade for the Prophet to marry more women, period:
  
[033:052]  It is not lawful for thee (to marry more) women after this, nor to change them for (other) wives, even though their beauty attract thee, except any thy right hand should possess (as handmaidens): and God doth watch over all things.
  
So the bottom line here dear brother is this:  Islam didn't come to serve our Prophet, peace be upon him.  Our Prophet's marriage were also for political reasons.  Arabs are very tribal, even today.  A marriage between families or tribes ensures alliance between them.  In the days of the sword, and when the Prophet had 365 pagan tribes to deal with, the lesser the enemies the better, and the more victorious Islam was, and the lesser the suffering and hardship the Muslims will experience.
So in light of this, the Prophet's marriages were perfectly valid.  Once this became unnecessary anymore, Allah Almighty Decided to completely prohibit the Prophet from marrying more women.  Allah Almighty, of course and as always, Knows Best about His Divine Reaons and Wisdoms.  All Praise and Glory are due to Him.

Now let's see how islam and muhammad pbuh is clearly specified in the so called holy bible.

Indeed, jesus was not able to complete his mission. Otherwise he would not have said in john : 'and i will give you another counsellor. To be with you for ever , even the spirit of truth.'

'Nevertheless i tell you the truth: it's your advantage that i go away; for if I dont go away, the counsellor will not come to you.'
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Who these points refer to? Is not it Muhammad pbuh? Verily, jesus refers to Muhammad pbuh.
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If jesus was successful in his mission, why should he say that there would be another counsellor(with clear hints to Muhammad pbuh)?
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And did Muhammad pbuh refer to any other counsellor as jesus did?
No,instead he said and made it clear that there will be no Prophet after him, he was the last.
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From the given above, it is apparent that jesus was half successful, but Muhammad pbuh was Completely successful in fulfilling what Allah expected from him.
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Really , Muhammad pbuh was great and the most honourable.
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However, i believe my latest answers will open your eyes very wide.
Now , let me challenge you to refute my posting on you earlier questions and muhammad pbuh s presence in the current day bible. At the same time let me state that a new bible has come to light . It's the gospel of phillip . However another gospel named the gospel of barnabas is already in existence. Amazingly this gospel, which is a source of genuine fact is carefully and conveniently kept secret from us. However you have no reason to say that barnabas was not correct as he cant lie because he is one of the important disciples of jesus, as i have come to know through a christian site. Now let me say that none of these two gospels are matching with the current day adopted bible's four gospels, whether be it kjv niv rsv or any. The most amazing is the fact that this gospel has been very cunningly removed from or not included in the ntesta. bible.

Question 1>Will you please tell me the "why" ?
Question 2>Will you tell me who is the original author of the bible?

WHAT YOU MUST DO IS STOP FIGHTING AGAINST THE TRUTH. YOU ARE GOING TO LOSE YOU SOUL OVER THIS. YOU CONTINUE TO STUBBORNLY RESIS THE HOLY SPIRIT CONCERINING SALVATION. IF YOU JUST PUT ASIDE YOUR FALSE TRADITION AND ACCEPT THE GOSPEL AS TRUE THEN YOUR EYES WILL BE OPENED. OTHERWISE YOU ARE LOST!!
MIKE

The time now in our area is 1332 hours. I will be waiting for further answer from u until(18:30gmt+5:30hours) (12at night local time).

What is it you really want? Can you tell the truth about your inner self? Free from all that would hinder you. Free from your community of believers. Free from Muhummad. Free from Allah. If you reach that platueu then maybe we can talk about what really matters. You must make a leap of faith and leave behind all that holds you in its grips. Everything including your religion. Do you think god will punish you for looking for yourself.? I am willing to bet he is waiting for you to see all he has waitiing for you. I am waiting too!
mike

I am still wainting for you to let go of all that holds you in contempt of GOD.
Mike

Who is this silver glass? Tell the truth. Mvastano 6164 Mike or what?
However, i told mvastano 6164 Mike to do what you tell me to now. He denied pompously. Why should i do that now? The discussion/debate is only with mvastano 6164 Mike. I will not change my mind upon any silverglass Mike's call.
Nevertheless, i give a reply to mvastano Mike. See next

I have waited more that what i said.
Now see your inabilities and failures_ _ _ _ _ _
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my question/challenge:your reaction
provide the quotes that proves quranic embryological facts are copied from others: no reply=means you lied it
was god right in coming through the vagina of a 12year old girl? : silent=means your approval(however, we wont believe that he was god)
jesus was half successful while muhammad pbuh was full successful: silent=your approval(thanks)
refute that muhammad is present in the bible : silence=your acceptance
my last two questions : no reply=you dont know them
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these shows your failure, inability, disqualification and unwillingness to debate any more.
This idea is more apparent from your whole reply.
How can you brainlessly claim that i should believe in your man made FALSE gospels and put aside my SPIRITUAL tradition without giving any reason? How mean are you!
How can you say again that i am fighting against the truth? Why should i stop fighting? How do you think i am losing my soul over it?
We, being the followers of Allahs rasul Muhammad pbuh, and armoured with his holy blessing ,are never the losers!
But They are, who oppose us, esp our belief!
Our eyes are already opened! Now it's time for you to open it! Come ! EMBRACE ISLAM ! If you want to have an easy (not free) entrance to heaven in the next world, and dignity in the present world!
Bless us ALLAH! We will always be yours! And open the EYES OF THE DISBELIEVERS!

You are letting your anger get the best of you. Calm down and take a deep breath. Allow god to open your heart as you humble yourself before him. Ask him to show you who christ really is. Go into your prayer closet where only you and god can hear and honestly ask his to show you who christ really is. Its that simple. He will answer you! Just do it! Do not be a coward! Be brave and your eyes will be opened!
SILVERGLASS

You are all about head knowledge and you are empty when it comes to heart knowledge. Don't you see that the kingdom of god is about love and heart knowledge not about facts and dissent with others. See I corinthians chapter 13 concerning this.
Silverglass

Did you take the time to read I corinthians chapter 13 yet!
If you have tell me what you think of it. Does it make sense to you?

OK, OK, you want to play , here are some more things to ponder!

Given the fact that the gospel of Barnabas is a 15th century forgery by Muslims, my question is: why do you quote this document as proof that early Christians denied the crucifixion of Christ and what proof do you offer that it is not a Muslim forgery?

The Islamic religion teaches that Jesus Christ was a practicing Muslim. My question is: is this any less ridiculous than if Christians said Muhammad was a practicing Buddhist?

If you feel the Bible is so corrupted, than why do you quote Deut 18:18 and John 16:13 as uncorrupted prophecies of Muhammad’s comment in the sixth century AD.

Galatians 1:6-9 Apostle Paul says "I am amazed that you are so quickly deserting Christ for a different religion. But even if an angel from heaven, should preach to you a different religion, let him be accursed." My question is: Do you think it possible that this is a genuine text from God and he foresaw that both Muhammad and Joseph Smith would be taught a new religion by an angel?

Muslim's believe the Bible is corrupted. Yet in Isa 40:22 and three other passages. (Prov 8:27; Amos 9:6 Job 26:10) it says the earth is round and not flat. Job 26:7 says the earth is free-floating in space: "he hangs the earth on nothing." Both these facts are scientifically accurate, and revealed in the Bible long before man discovered it for himself. My question is: Are these passages scientifically accurate corruption's?

Muslims proudly quote several passages in the Koran 30:48; 24:43, as scientifically accurate explanations of the hydrologic water cycle. My question is: given the fact the Bible had already fully documented the hydrologic water cycle 1600 before the Koran in Job 36:27-28, and 3 other passages (Eccl 11:3; Job 26:8; Eccl 1:6-7), doesn't this prove that Muhammad merely copied the scientific facts of the hydrologic water cycle directly from the Bible? (Clouds hold water: Eccl 11:3; Job 26:8; Rivers recycle water: Eccl 1:6-7; Evapouration: Amos 9:6)

Muslims claim that Muhammad always worshipped Allah in a 100% correct way, without the need for any restoral. My question is: If this is true, then why did Muhammad pray towards Jerusalem for the first 5 years of his prophethood, and later redirected his prays towards Mecca? And did Jesus pray towards Mecca 5 times a towards Jerusalem or Mecca?

The Bible defines a miracle as something that defies the laws of nature. Muslims claim the Koran is a miracle merely because it was allegedly transmitted perfectly without alteration and flaw till the second coming. Since the Harry Potter books will certainly be transmitted perfectly without alteration or flaw, and be around until the second coming, my question is: does this make the Harry Potter books a miracle like the Koran?

Muslims claim that the Angel Gabriel is the Holy Spirit who came upon Mary and caused her to conceive based upon Luke 1:26:38. My question is: If this is true, then why did Gabriel say to Mary in verse 35, "the power of the Holy Spirit will come upon you" rather than "my power will come upon you"?

Muslims quote Luke 22:43 as proof that when Jesus cried out to God not to be crucified, that an angel came and saved him from crucifixion. However the next verses says that Jesus was arrested by the mob for crucifixion. My Question is: on what basis do you accept the first passage as uncorrupted scripture, but reject the next verse as corrupted scripture?

You can't answer questions with denigrating remarks but it is true you have no answers for the corruption your doctrine serves. If you have to make up answers or rely on preposterous and bombastic replies then it is you who are lost for answers. I am willing to bet that Muslims will continue to fabricate stories and lies to distance themselves from the gospel and by so doing will serve their master Satan in his agenda to keep the world in darkness. However, it will continue to be true that God will save those who are sincerely seeking the truth and they will inherit his kingdom. As for you there is a special place in hell that you are building for yourself in which you will remain in forever! You say you love god but in reality you love your doctrine more. If you loved Jesus you would keep his commandments and believe that he is in fact God.

John 5:17-18 Jesus said to them, “My Father is always at his work to this very day, and I, too, am working.” For this reason the Jews tried all the harder to kill him; not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God.
John 10:30-33 “I and the Father are one.” Again the Jews picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus said to them, “I have shown you many great miracles from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?” “We are not stoning you for any of these,” replied the Jews, “but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God.”
Philippians 2:5-6 Your attitude should be the same as that of Christ Jesus: who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be grasped.
Jesus did not hesitate to claim equality with God the Father. The Greek word for equal in John 5:18 is isos, as in an isosceles, or equal-sided, triangle. Jesus was and is “in very nature God,” and therefore was not blaspheming by claiming to be God. The disbelieving Jews had correctly heard Jesus to be making this claim to full deity, even though they rejected His claim. Is Jesus God? The apostle Paul clearly identified Jesus as "being in very nature God".

HOWEVER, WHATEVER HE FACT BE, IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO HIDE ONE'S CHARACTER EVEN IF HE SUCCEEDS IN HIDING HIS ID. BUT IT IS A UNIVERSAL TRUTH THAT A LOSER WILL BE EVER-TRYING TO ATTACK THE WINNER.

IT MAY TAKE TIME FOR ME TO REPLY YOU. DON'T BE IMPATIENT

AND I AM VERY CONFUSED WHY AM I SAID TO BE LETTING MY ANGER GET THE BEST OF ME.
YOU JUST WAIT FOR MY NEXT POINT TO POINT ANSWER

As a reply to your doubtful question abt the barnabas bible, i quote a directly copied page from barnabas.net
The page says>

The Gospel of Barnabas was accepted as a Canonical Gospel in the Churches of Alexandria till 325 C.E. Iranaeus (130-200) wrote in support of pure monotheism and opposed Paul for injecting into Christianity doctrines of the pagan Roman religion and Platonic philosophy. He had quoted extensively from the Gospel of Barnabas in support of his views. This shows that the Gospel of Barnabas was in circulation in the first and second centuries of Christianity.
In 325 C.E., the Nicene Council was held, where it was ordered that all original Gospels in Hebrew script should be destroyed. An Edict was issued that any one in possession of these Gospels will be put to death.
In 383 C.E., the Pope secured a copy of the Gospel of Barnabas and kept it in his private library.
In the fourth year of Emperor Zeno (478 C.E. ), the remains of Barnabas were discovered and there was found on his breast a copy of the Gospel of Barnabas written by his own hand. (Acia Sanctorum Boland Junii Tom II, Pages 422 and 450. Antwerp 1698) . The famous Vulgate Bible appears to be based on this Gospel.
Pope Sixtus (1585-90) had a friend, Fra Marino. He found the Gospel of Barnabas in the private library of the Pope. Fra Marino was interested because he had read the writings of Iranaeus where Barnabas had been profusely quoted. The Italian manuscript passed through different hands till it reached "a person of great name and authority" in Amsterdam, "who during his life time was often heard to put a high value to this piece". After his death it came in the possession of J. E. Cramer, a Councillor of the King of Prussia. In 1713 Cramer presented this manuscript to the famous connoisseur of books, Prince Eugene of Savoy. In 1738 along with the library of the Prince it found its way into Hofbibliothek in Vienna. There it now rests.
Toland, in his "Miscellaneous Works" (published posthumously in 1747), in Vol. I, page 380, mentions that the Gospel of Barnabas was still extant. In Chapter XV he refers to the Glasian Decree of 496 C.E. where "Evangelium Barnabe" is included in the list of forbidden books. Prior to that it had been forbidden by Pope Innocent in 465 C.E. and by the Decree of the Western Churches in 382 C.E.
Barnabas is also mentioned in the Stichometry of Nicephorus Serial No. 3, Epistle of Barnabas . . . Lines 1, 300.
Then again in the list of Sixty Books
Serial No. 17. Travels and teaching of the Apostles.
Serial No. 18. Epistle of Barnabas.
Serial No. 24. Gospel According to Barnabas.
A Greek version of the Gospel of Barnabas is also found in a solitary fragment. The rest is burnt.
The Latin text was translated into English by Mr. and Mrs. Ragg and was printed at the Clarendon Press in Oxford. It was published by the Oxford University Press in 1907. This English translation mysteriously disappeared from the market. Two copies of this translation are known to exist, one in the British Museum and the other in the Library of the Congress, Washington, DC. The first edition was from a micro-film copy of the book in the Library of the Congress, Washington, DC.

visit the site i hv given to find out>

how the gospel survived
what does the bible say
who is muhammad
who was christ


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After visiting the site, u will realize >
how the christians have blesphamously bn trying their best to>
magnify christ ; hide muhammad SAW's holiness; making the themselves fool.
surly the bible is a man made story book and a fiction WHICH CONTAINS FACTS FROM "THE ORIGINAL SOURCE".

In fact, the word ISLAM means SUBMISSION TO GOD. So every rational mind would think that JESUS INDEED WAS TEACHING ISLAM. On what basis do you say muhammad SAW was teaching buddism? That type of saying shows how mean the christians r!
Let's see another fact. THEY say they r christians. the word christian means ' the followers of christ'(where it should hv bn GODIAN or JEHOVIAN, the follower of god or jehova).
Given the fact that they eat pork (for paul ate it) , they r not christians too; they r PAULIAN. They r the 'world grandLIE champions'.

Now i will try to answer your last question

you said

Muslims quote Luke 22:43 as proof that when Jesus cried out to God not to be crucified, that an angel came and saved him from crucifixion. However the next verses says that Jesus was arrested by the mob for crucifixion. My Question is: on what basis do you accept the first passage as uncorrupted scripture, but reject the next verse as corrupted scripture?

where did you hear from that we believe your so cunning forgery ?

Actually we don't believe that jesus was crucified, that he cried to be saved from crucifixation or that he was arrested or surrounded for crucifixion. But, for only the sake of argument, we take those fictions as facts in order to expose the internal contradictions that r in the bible.

Let's proceed to your last but one question.

u said

Muslims claim that the Angel Gabriel is the Holy Spirit who came upon Mary and caused her to conceive based upon Luke 1:26:38. My question is: If this is true, then why did Gabriel say to Mary in verse 35, "the power of the Holy Spirit will come upon you" rather than "my power will come upon you"?

i warn YOU, silverglass (mike), that do NOT make trues the lie nd vc versa. the quran is not the copy of anything.

now let me answer.
by asking u > WHY DOES MATTHEW SAYS IN HIS OWN GOSPEL THAT > JESUS SAW MATTHEW instead of saying that HE SAW ME?


(THERE IS AN AMAZING CONTRADICTION REGARDING THIS TOO. SOME GOSPEL SAY HE WAS LEVY SOME SAY HE WAS MATTHEW)

NOW the previous one
u said
The Bible defines a miracle as something that defies the laws of nature. Muslims claim the Koran is a miracle merely because it was allegedly transmitted perfectly without alteration and flaw till the second coming. Since the Harry Potter books will certainly be transmitted perfectly without alteration or flaw, and be around until the second coming, my question is: does this make the Harry Potter books a miracle like the Koran?

what did you say? ALLEGEDLY? MERELY?
the Koran is a miracle because it was transmitted perfectly without alteration and flaw till the second coming?
IS THIS THE ONLY MIRACLE?
http://www.answering-islam.com/ac20.htm#links
VISIT THIS SITE 4 MORE MIRACLES OF THE QURAN

DOES THIS FACT APPLY TO HARRY POTTER BOOK? OR TO YOUR SCRIPTURE?

Galatians 1:6-9
THESE VERSES CAN B CONSIDERED AS A LATER INPUT OF "THOSE" WHO WROTE NEW TESTAMENT. IN ORDER TO MAKE THEIR COMPOSITION SEEM DOUBTLESS AND UNIQUE TO ITS READERS. OR MAY B NOT. THERE S NO AMPLE PROOFS TO BACK EITHER. HOWEVER, IF SOME1 VISITS barnabas.net HE WILL COME TO KNOW THAT THIS NEW GOSPEL IS TRUE.

SENSE I GET FROM 1 COR 13

The excellent way had in view in the close of the former chapter, is not what is meant by charity in our common use of the word, almsgiving, but love in its fullest meaning; true love to God and man. Without this, the most glorious gifts are of no account to us, of no esteem in the sight of God. A clear head and a deep understanding, are of no value without a benevolent and charitable heart. There may be an open and lavish hand, where there is not a liberal and charitable heart.

Doing good to others will do none to us, if it be not done from love to God, and good-will to men. If we give away all we have, while we withhold the heart from God, it will not profit. Nor even the most painful sufferings. How are those deluded who look for acceptance and reward for their good works, which are as scanty and defective as they are corrupt and selfish! (1Co 13:4-7)

SENSE I GET FROM 1 COR 13

Its excellency represented by its properties and effects;

Some of the effects of charity are stated, that we may know whether we have this grace; and that if we have not, we may not rest till we have it. This love is a clear proof of regeneration, and is a touchstone of our professed faith in Christ. In this beautiful description of the nature and effects of love, it is meant to show the Corinthians that their conduct had, in many respects, been a contrast to it. Charity is an utter enemy to selfishness; it does not desire or seek its own

praise, or honour, or profit, or pleasure. Not that charity destroys all regard to ourselves, or that the charitable man should neglect himself and all his interests. But charity never seeks its own to the hurt of others, or to neglect others. It ever prefers the welfare of others to its private advantage. How good-natured and amiable is Christian charity! How excellent would Christianity appear to the world, if those who profess it were more under this Divine principle, and paid due regard to

the command on which its blessed Author laid the chief stress! Let us ask whether this Divine love dwells in our hearts. Has this principle guided us into becoming behaviour to all men? Are we willing to lay aside selfish objects and aims? Here is a call to watchfulness, diligence, and prayer. (1Co 13:8-13)

SENSE I GET FROM 1 COR 13

And by its abiding, and its superiority.

Charity is much to be preferred to the gifts on which the Corinthians prided themselves. From its longer continuance. It is a grace, lasting as eternity. The present state is a state of childhood, the future that of manhood. Such is the difference between earth and heaven. What narrow views, what confused notions of things, have children when compared with grown men! Thus shall we think of our most valued gifts of this world, when we come to heaven. All things are dark and confused

now, compared with what they will be hereafter. They can only be seen as by the reflection in a mirror, or in the description of a riddle; but hereafter our knowledge will be free from all obscurity and error. It is the light of heaven only, that will remove all clouds and darkness that hide the face of God from us. To sum up the excellences of charity, it is preferred not only to gifts, but to other graces, to faith and hope. Faith fixes on the Divine revelation, and assents thereto, relying

on the Divine Redeemer. Hope fastens on future happiness, and waits for that; but in heaven, faith will be swallowed up in actual sight, and hope in enjoyment. There is no room to believe and hope, when we see and enjoy. But there, love will be made perfect. There we shall perfectly love God. And there we shall perfectly love one another. Blessed state! how much surpassing the best below! God is love, 1Jo 4:8, 16.

Where God is to be seen as he is, and face to face, there charity is in its greatest height; there only will it be perfected

U SAID

Muslims claim that Muhammad always worshipped Allah in a 100% correct way, without the need for any restoral. My question is: If this is true, then why did Muhammad pray towards Jerusalem for the first 5 years of his prophethood, and later redirected his prays towards Mecca? And did Jesus pray towards Mecca 5 times a towards Jerusalem or Mecca?

[002:142] The fools among the people will say: "What hath turned them from the Qibla to which they were used?" Say: To God belong both east and West: He guideth whom He will to a Way that is straight.
[002:143] Thus, have We made of you an Ummat justly balanced, that ye might be witnesses over the nations, and the Apostle a witness over yourselves; and We appointed the Qibla to which thou wast used, only to test those who followed the Apostle from those who would turn on their heels (From the Faith). Indeed it was (A change) momentous, except to those guided by God. And never would God Make your faith of no effect. For God is to all people Most surely full of kindness, Most Merciful.

[002:115] To God belong the east and the West: Whithersoever ye turn, there is the presence of God. For God is all-Pervading, all-Knowing.


what do you get from this?

And jesus prayed facing towards east bcoz the kabah is nearly to the east from his birthplace. may b bcoz of some other reason.

A man believes what he wants to see and disreagards the rest. You see ghosts and so why would anyone consider you rational?

Gospel of Barnabas
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Gospel of Barnabas is a substantial book depicting the life of Jesus; and claiming to be by Jesus's disciple Barnabas, who in this work is one of the twelve apostles. Two manuscripts are known to have existed, both dated to the late sixteenth century and written respectively in Italian and in Spanish; although the Spanish manuscript is now lost, its text surviving only in a partial eighteenth-century transcript. Barnabas is about the same length as the four canonical gospels put together (the Italian manuscript has 222 chapters); with the bulk being devoted to an account of Jesus' ministry, much of it harmonised from accounts also found in the canonical gospels. In some key respects, it conforms to the Islamic interpretation of Christian origins and contradicts the New Testament teachings of Christianity.
This Gospel is considered by the majority of academics, including Christians and some Muslims (such as Abbas el-Akkad) to be late and pseudepigraphical;[1] however, some academics suggest that it may contain some remnants of an earlier apocryphal work edited to conform to Islam, perhaps Gnostic[2] or Ebionite[3] or Diatessaronic[4]. Some Muslims consider the surviving versions as transmitting a suppressed apostolic original. Some Islamic organizations cite it in support of the Islamic view of Jesus.
This work should not be confused with the surviving Epistle of Barnabas. Neither should it be confused with the surviving Acts of Barnabas (see ahead, section Earlier occurrences of a Gospel of Barnabas).

You obviously are not fooling anyone but yourself. This barnabas.net site is a muslim site with an agenda to promote false truth. No one of any intelligence would be fooled by this propaganda! You are hell bent on destroying the truth about the gospel and you will pay on judgement day! If you think I am trying to make you angry then you need to think harder. I am trying to hit you over your head with the weight of reason. If you have any conscience left stop before its too late or you will die in your sins.

I am amazed at how lovely you speak about charity but you are just another wolf in sheeps clothing. You do not love God. If you did you would believe in his word. However, you continue to speak falsely about the gospel and christians. Your efforts to show corruptions and half truths concerning the New Testament is nothing but an attacks on the true word of god itself. This is how you show yourself as less than charitable. Jesus said you will know the false believers by their fruits and your fruits show you to be an antichrist.
I am telling you that you are on a broad path for wide is the way and broad is the path that leads to distruction and many there be that go therein. But straight is the way and narrow is the path that leads to life and few there be that go therein. Jesus said I am the way the truth and the life and no man comes to the father unless he comes through me!
If this is true and is not a corruption of what Jesus actually said then you are in very big trouble! Would you not agree?

Who will call you a rational ? Think about yourself! How brainlessly you are saying that i see ghosts! I doubt if you are suffering from oral and speech diarrhea!

Yes it is right that sabr foundation which supports barnabas.net is an islamic foundation. But it doesn't automatically mean that they have an agenda to spread false truth. Even they have provided enough proofs to prove that the gospel of barnabas is not a forgery you dont believe them. In this sense you can be called irrational because you like to believe that the GOSPEL OF FORGERY, whose modern name is the bible is true and that s why you don't believe the authentic proofs of the sabr foundation. And the word IRRATIONAL backfires you.

I also can say that the wikipedia , as an christian org , is trying to make people believe that this gospel is not authentic although they in the beginning claim that the gospel is a book depicting the life of christ in islamic accordance. The wiki as a free encyclopedia gives an account of the gospel but internally they are trying to expose their christian belief that barnabas was not real. If You can take wiki as your source of copy-n-paste response! I am also justified in taking answering-christianity and barnabas.net as my source of answer.
However i would like to inform you that as christians are experts in hiding the truths and exposing the false,
sabr foundation have had to take the time to bring the true gospel of jesus to light.

I have already told u why sabr foundation has opened barnabas.net . But i would also like to add that the intelligence of the bible is the common sense of the quran. So we have learned about the final day a lot and very well. So dont try to teach me about that day. But your reason-blows are backfiring at yourself. Be careful my dear friend, be aware if these blows boomerangs on you.

My dear brother, this is nothing but a boomerang on you but you dont know it. It is the natural habit of the blinds to see the large and healthy sheep as a wolf in sheeps clothing. But they cannot think but irrationally!
See how you are in a broader path than us: >you have innumerable books while we have two or three books: the quran the hadith the sunna etc. So no doubt you have a broader choice (=path)
>you have three gods we have only one. So you are in a broader path.
See how you yourselves are anti christs :
>jesus did not eat pork ,you eat.
>Jesus was circumcised , most of you are not.
>Jesus had no so important event in his life for what you observe x mass. You are obviously disregarding jesus by observing x mass. His birthday is not yet proved to be on 25dec.
Lots more......
And how can you call others less then charitable while you yourselves are in the front line of that class?
I am neither angry with nor agreeing with you. I dont know whether these jesuit words are authentic or not and whether or no these are corrupted, But , in fact, you yourselves are in big trouble. Because he (jesus) meant by saying those words that you should obey him and live like him. But you do not(as shown above : how you disobey him) . So surely you yourselves are in big trouble!

For us the quran is the word of god. We believe the quran. Then how can you say that we dont believe the words of god, We dont love god? Do you think we should believe in your man made biblical forgeries?

From my standpoint as a conservative evangelical I believe the bible is not corrupted as you say but in fact remains intact in it original message from verification of many manuscripts. The following is an excerpt that I wrote in response to a Muslim some time ago. I thought I should send you this to see what you think about manuscript transmission and how christians show the bible is authentic in form from many sources throughout history. See what you think.
NKingston,
You are now moving into the area of false accusations. You are in fact stating something you cannot know. You call the Christ as represented in the historical documents of the new testament forgeries. How do you know that they are forgeries? What original documents do you possess with what we have from manuscript transmission to show that these are forgeries? What so called “original documents” do you possess?. There aren’t any! But this is a mute point anyway. You still don’t seem to understand what I have been trying to tell you. You seem to think that I need an original document to verify the truth of Christ. I told you it is preserved in the message of Christ. This original message was not in complete written form until later time. People witnessed the truth by word of mouth as they do today in the world just like they did in the first century. Even today people preach the gospel in parts of the world where people are just as illiterate as most people were in the first century. Its not the text that’s important when we preach. It is the message we preach and that is Christ crucified! No one is trying to defraud anybody with this message? The original disciples and apostles gave their very lives to preach it. Why would anyone in his right mind give his life for something if he didn’t believe it to be the truth. Don’t even try to tell me that they were deceived. You weren’t there when they were being crucified, CHARLIE! It is God himself who verifies this message to us when we humbly come to him by faith. If it was just a message without supernatural confirmation then it would be useless. This is all I want to say.
To be fair to your concerns I will provide some information on how our modern versions of the bible came to be. It may not be of any interest to you so you can disregard the information below if you wish. It is not meant to prove anything only to give a brief outline of transmisson history and is not exhaustive.
These documents along with the creeds formed by the early church fathers are what gives credence to our modern translations. However, to be fair there are also older documents written by the Church fathers confirming these documents going back as far as 70 AD in THE EPISTLE OF BARNABAS (c. A.D. 70) and continuing with others like Eusebius of Caesarea (c 263 – 339?[1]) Often referred to as Father of church history. Additionally an original catechism is perserved>The Didache which is mentioned by Eusebius (c. 324) as the Teachings of the Apostles following the books ..... The earliest suggested dating is 44 or 47. The Didache was rediscovered in a monastery in Constantinople and published in 1883. It is a controversial instructional book, whose date has been much debated. Currently, the Didache, a non-canonical book, is believed to have been written between A.D. 70 and 100. The Didache claims to be the work of the Twelve Apostles. Our present version of the ancient Didache is a reliable guide to help us understand the conduct code of the earliest Christian community
Ancient Manuscripts
Q: Which manuscripts are in general the most reliable?
A: All of the manuscripts have basically the same words, with a difference of only 2.6% (about 3,523 words). However, some Christian scholars energetically debate the differences in this 2.6%, with primarily three different views.
The Alexandrian manuscripts are the earliest and some think the most reliable (except for John 6:53-8:11). Aland et al. the NIV translators, and a majority of scholars today hold to this view. A church father named Origen extensively studied many Bible texts we do not have available today, and his work undoubtedly influenced the Alexandrian manuscript family. Besides many later manuscripts written on common papyri, two early manuscripts, Sinaiticus and Vaticanus, were written on expensive vellum (deer hide). These were apparently "official copies"; Constantine ordered to be written just after Christianity was legalized. These go back to about 325-350 A.D.
The Byzantine manuscripts some think are most reliable. In the east, manuscripts being written gradually "standardized", and there are 1,100 manuscripts of the Byzantine Lectionary. This viewpoint is growing among scholars, as the manuscripts typically agree with quotes from John Chrysostom, which takes this tradition back to 407 A.D. For large changes there are least 54-word modifications between the Alexandrian and Byzantine manuscript families and 577 words absent in the Alexandrian and present in the Byzantine. This about 0.5% (631 words). In other words, 20% of all text variations are due to Alexandrian vs. Byzantine issues.
The Textus Receptus (TR), also called the Received Text, some think is the most reliable. In the West, manuscripts being written became more and more standardized. This Latin standard is called "the textus receptus". The King James Version follows the Textus Receptus, except that it adds 1 John 5:7-8. Jay P. Green, Sr. primarily uses the Textus Receptus in his a Greek/Hebrew to English parallel Bible.
Bible Query - NT Manuscripts



Additonal Notes On the divinity of Christ :
Now we will examine the evidence provided us of the Early Church Fathers. In his Dissertation on I Tim. 3:16 Dean Burgon cites no less than 23 Fathers who support the reading “Theos”. A few of these follow:

Ignatius (A.D. 90) writes:
"There is one physician, both fleshly and spiritual; made and not made; God in the flesh" (Ephe. 2:7) and "God himself being made manifest in the form of a man." (Ephe. 4:13).
It is of particular interest to note that Ignatius uses the Greek word for God (theos), and for flesh (sarki) in the first citation and the Greek word for manifest (using the form peanerasas) in the second, as does the Greek text of the KJV in 1 Timothy 3:16.

Hippolytus (A.D. 190) writes:
“A man, therefore, even though he will it not, is compelled to acknowledge God the Father Almighty, and Christ Jesus the Son of God, who, being God, became man, to whom also the Father made all things subject,” and “And even as He was preached then, in the same manner also did He come and manifest Himself, being by the Virgin and the Holy Spirit made a new man; for in that He had the heavenly (nature) of the Father, as the Word and the earthly (nature), as taking to Himself the flesh from the old Adam by the medium of the Virgin, He now, coming forth into the world, was manifested as God in a body, coming forth too as a perfect man (Hippolytus, Against The Heresy Of One Noetus, viii and xvii)
Gregory of Nyssa (A.D. 370) writes:
How is it that he who speaks thus fails to understand that God when manifested in flesh did not admit for the formation of His own body the conditions of human nature, but was born for us a Child by the Holy Ghost and the power of the Highest; (Gregory, Against Eunomius, 2:7)
Gregory of Nyssa is found to quote this place at least 22 times, each time he quotes “Theos” (God).

The ancient versions that attest to “Theos” are, the Georgian Version (6th century), the Harkleian Version (7th century) and the Slavonic Version (9th century). This reading is also authenticated by the following English translations:

MVastano

God is omniscient and therefore observes all truths. He sits at the apex of a pyramid of all known and unknown truths and perceives them all at once. He understands real and false truths and is therefore not caught off guard and cannot be surprised or mistaken . What is the truth that God wants us to know about. The gospels of the new testament claims that Jesus is the fulfillment of the writings of the old testament in the person and work of Jesus the Christ. If you want to know what real truth is then you need to believe in His messenger. Jesus is that messenger. If I were you I would not perjure myself about the truth.. We both cannot be right about the particulars when it comes to salvation. God is not the author of confusion. You need to look at the new testament record. Romans 10:8-10

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8 But what does it say? “The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart”[a](that is, the word of faith which we preach): 9 that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation

John 10:8-12 (King James Version)

8All that ever came before me are thieves and robbers: but the sheep did not hear them.

9I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture.

10The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

11I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.

12But he that is an hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep.

You should believe in the son and what he said. He was before your quran. 600 years before. Who did those who came before your doctrine believe in? Not Muhummad. Not the quran. There believed in the only begotton son. The one who had no beginning. The Everlasting Father. The Prince of Peace. That would be Jesus.

One thing I think you muslims all seem to do. You clump together all christian institutions as if we all believe the same things. You must decipher between those who are doctrinally sound and those who are not. You do not seem to understand that not all christian logos are necessarily doctrinally sound. That is where you seem to make many mistakes when you align mainline christianity with every wind of doctrine that may call itself christian but is not truly christian. For example you probably think that Christian science , Jehova witness, Baptists , Seventh Day Adventists, Latter Day Saints, Church of Christ, Unitarians, The Way, are all christian. They are not. How many of these would you think are really mainline?

Also you seem to think in terms of black and white. You don't seem to understand abstracts as opposed to concrete terms. For example you think christains worship 3 gods. You do not seem to refects on the idea of God in three you just literally see 3. You are not an abstract thinker. This is the cause of misunderstanding.

I will give you an example of this kind of thinking.
Lets start with a premise:

God is omniscient. If god is omniscient then he knows before the creation of the universe that you would be reading this reply. Right? If not then he would not be omnisceint. So if god saw you reading this reply some time in the distant past then what he sees you doing now has to come to pass. Right? If this is so then you have no free will. You cannot not read this reply. Correct? If all you do has already been seen in the mind of God in the distant past then you must do what god sees you doing in the future. True? Then all is predetermined and you are fated to be a muslim. Right? And I am fated to be a christian. Right? Tell me what is the truth about this?

You are not being fair to me. You complain that I treat you with disrespect and now you do the same and refuse to engage my queries. I am angry at this kind of dialog where it becomes one way with you when things get hot and heavy. Your silence speaks volumes. What is the matter? Does the cat have your tongue? Real wise men work together and are not afraid of the light of truth.

God’s will is that none should perish but that all should come to repentance> Titus 2:11.

For God has not destined us for wrath, but for obtaining salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ, ... >I Thessalonians 5:9…

And to wait for His Son from heaven, whom He raised from the dead, that is Jesus, who rescues us from the wrath to come. > I Thessalonians 1:10

And from the beginning those eyewitnesses who saw a great light of repentance left us the message of salvation. > Isaiah 9:2 the people walking in darkness 
 have seen a great light; 
 on those living in the land of the shadow of death [a] 
 a light has dawned.

And we know that the Son of God has come, and he has given us understanding so that we can know the true God. And now we live in fellowship with the true God because we live in fellowship with his Son, Jesus Christ. He is the only true God, and he is eternal life. 1 John 5:20

2 Thessalonians 2:13 But we should always give thanks to God for you, brethren beloved by the Lord, because God has chosen you from the beginning for salvation through sanctification by the Spirit and faith in the truth. (NASB ©1995)

Do you really believe that these texts are not what God intended for us to know?
I have asked the lord to open your heart to these texts in the event you might come to know his as lord and savior?

Alright, lets call it quits. Do not contact me anymore. I only want to talk to people who are mature. You replies are childish. You need to grow up.

The counciler is the holy ghost.

Do not compell me to come back now. Mvastano and you! I am a bit angry with silver glass . How dare he neglect me as a small boy ! How dare he tells me to grow up more? Huh? How old was jesus when he argued with other grown up men?
Ok i am a bit happy also with silverglass. For i have less time to join you in debate/discuss. For it is not my job to devote my valuable times to these discussions. I am a student . I have not much time as yours. I will come back LATER. May HE BLESS YOU ALL . MAY you be given the TRUE INFORMATIONS

I am not calling you a small boy! But when you refuse to respond by not responding then you are behaving like a child. You did not respond to my last three posts except to continue with the same answer which of course was no answer. So your response was more like a pouting child. Anyway you are a bit of a alarmist when it comes to debating. What can I say? Have a good day!