Israeli-Palestinian conflict
Jews have a right to have a nation that can protect us from persecution
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mkoffs
Unspeakable crimes and persecution have been perpetrated against jews for a thousand years. After the holocaust, it became clear that our only salvation was a nation of our own: A jewish state. Now we have finally achieved this goal and the persecution continues from the Muslim world.

The difference is that now we have the capacity to defend ourselves. The Jewish State is our only hope for security.
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amorze
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I agree with part of your statement, but I don't understand how the whole concept of a "Jewish State" is not a racist proposition.

What if, for examle, France decided to think of themselves a "Caucasian State" and favored immigrats who were caucasian, but either expelled or refused citizenships for Jews? I would find such a thing racist and unacceptable, just as I find the notion of a "Jewish State" morally repugnant.

The world is moving towards civil rights and racial equality. Israel is the only modern nation that is moving backwards toward hegemony and apartheid.
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korny
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Israel has agreed to allow Islamic Arabs to live in Golan and Gaza. They just want the incessant attacks on Israeli towns and villages, by rockets and missiles from within Gaza and Golan to stop.

All the Arabs have to do to live in peace with the Israeli, is stop attacking them.

But, the Islamic Arabs say, "all Jews must die." They have said it repeatedly, and acted accordingly, with Jihad after Jihad. So, Arabs, if you want peace, make it so.
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bestefar
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The whole conflict started with an invation of Jews from Europe and USA after WW2. IF they had stayed where they came from, there would not have been any conflict. It is an irony to watch Israeli soldiers emulating the Nazi Waffen SS, with the notable exception of gaschambers. Irael is stealing land, water and the dignity of the native population. Hardly a wsay to make peace with anybody !

When will they learn ?
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Korny
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WRONG!

It started when the Arabs forced the Jews out, some 2000 years ago. Since then, Jews have been evicted from nearly every country in the world. Problem is, most people hate Jews, because, they are successful business people- they have money. Well, they come by it honestly.

Those who choose to take this tack are bigots.

Have a nice day- run a few Jews out of your neighborhood.
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bestefar
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2000 years ago - that was a different world - and cannot be used as an argument. Why 2000 years . Why not 3000 years -before any Jew had seen Palestine !

I believe that the Jews' problem is that they dont mix with other people but stick together in ghettos or neighbourhoods. Rarely does a Jew marry a non-Jew,
so there is no integration., with the possible exception of Denmark ,where you find mixed marriages.

THe way Israel is treating the Palestinian natives is a disgrace !
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Explorer72
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More like three thousand there, buddy. Remember a little thing called the Babylonian Captivity?

I'm cool that you voiced your opinion, but citing incorrect facts weakens your argument.
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Explorer72
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Thanks Osama bin Hitler.
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SCARSEGIT
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Good day

Just how far back in history do you want to go, for me it must first be, stick to the basics and ask the following about same.

1) Is the Jewish race of the middle east?, unambiguously
the answer is yes. Only a total moron would say no

2) So, it is accepted that the Jews are of the middle east,
therefore, where in the middle east should the Jewish
race be domiciled and, giving them statehood under the
name of their own choosing,eg,Israel, Can I expect
answers from the anti Israel/Jews brigade.

In modern day times, the jews were granted statehood by mankind law makers. Since gaining statehood, Israel has never initiated/declared war on any nation throughout the world, even against Muslim states, one of which has openly demanded that they be wiped off the face of the earth.
With such hatefulness from mainly muslim states I say anything would be acceptable in defending their statehood, of which they have defeated many attackers.
As a Christian, I am a supporter of Israel, the palestinians, if they want their own state, pressure Jordan for a chunk of their territory.

Cheers,

Scarsegit

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SCARSEGIT
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Good day

Call me racist if you like, but, I believe a nation should adequately grow its population from within its own, hence furthing a race that in these modern times the Jews have contributed more into what makes this world go around than any other race or religion.
Look at the damage that multiculturism is doing in many countries, in which Muslims in particular are breeding much more than the home grown and, soon they will be the majority in the country that adopted them. Not to mention of course what happens to a muslim lady who falls in love with a none muslim man.
So, can I say red haired to red haired and likewise for other colours, one legged to one legged, one handed to one handed, big nose to big nose LOL, in a similar vein, man buys two gold fish, names them one and two, logic being, if one go's he still has two, if two go,s he still has one. LOL again
Cheers
Scarsegit
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