Now if the Spartans survived, how would that change history?
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Replied to: Now if the Spartans survived, how would that change history?
The Spartans did survive, and they have kept changing history all the way up to the present - I know many modern Hellenes of Spartan ancestry, and a few who were born there, or who come from their territory of Laconia, whose militant Spartan streak is especially apparent in people from the Mani area. It should be noted that even in present-day Greece, King Leonidas remains a national hero for all regions of Hellas, as the first true uniter of all Greek states, and that the best of the Spartan virtues are upheld as quintessentially Greek, as are those of Athens, Thebes, Macedonia, Crete, Corinth, Mycenae, and all the rest of the numerous countries of Ancient Greece - which also include many in Italy and Sicily, like Naples and Syracuse, a Dorian tribal city allied with Sparta.
I think what you meant to ask was what if the Spartan "system" had survived ... Elements of the Spartan system did survive, as in the dual kings that were revised into the dual ruler-ship of the two consuls of Rome, the totalitarian concept of modern communism, and the martial ethos shared by the American Marines of today. But the system in toto was by definition not created for anyplace but Sparta itself and was not made to be adaptable overall for an imperial ascendancy, which is why Sparta's defeat of Athens in the
25-year Greek Civil War was a victory that could not be retained or translated into a permanent established lifestyle throughout the rest of Greece: Spartan policy and tactics were ultimately conservative and deliberately so, designed for defense and not offense, to keep everyone out, not to bring others in.
When Greece became imperial, during Alexander's Macedonian expansion, it was exactly then when Sparta retreated into itself and was the sole Greek state that refused to join Alexander's forces in the conquest of the Persian Empire. This is but one example to show that unlike the Athenian approach by which Alexander spread Hellenism throughout the Mideast and into India, even to Afghanistan, Sparta's ways, whether in a military or social context, were not suited for nation-building or for the world's populations at large.
Yet the fact that you are even asking the question is a
witness to the influence of Ancient Sparta, and the forms in
which it has survived throughout the ages and among all the descendant nations of the West, wherein Sparta still changes history in today's world.
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Thank that really helps out i have a college report on the Persian invasion on Greece.