Also to tell you. all most all stars and galaxies that these scientists observe today are non-existent now as observed even though they observe light etc. emanated form them(object) so long ago. so all modern universe theories are based on illusions and so now you know what of the theory itself.

Hey dude,energy means power and power is god gifted,so god gifted things can surely survive any where,even in hell,in heaven or even in space,so mention.

Is the world realy going to end on 2012 i am too young to die and i want to live my life i need to live i want to live my life the fullest

The universe is infinite in space and in time it cycles it's not an illusion if the stars we see are expired now others exist we haven't seen yet. massive stars explode and make smaller stars and new massive stars are forming all the time. galaxies form, collide, change, age. they end up as massive black holes after consuming everything within themselves other black holes, space, time, and the fields of dimension. when everything has collapsed into one super massive black hole it explodes and forms another cycle of stars and galaxies; it cycles over and over. likely something is lost each cycle but not in any quantity we can measure probably infinitely close to nothing. so it could go on forever.

I have been wondering how long the cycle for a black hole is , if it's say 10 billion years to have a sun go through it's life cycle before collapsing into a black hole . Super massive black holes must take even longer and thus brings into question the 13.7 billion year ago little bang as being the "creator of everything" . Massive black holes may take 20 or 30 billion years just to gather that much matter .
But if we start with a 13 billion year old image , as this is as far as we can see so far , that only leaves .7 billion years for the Universe as we see it to have been formed .
Less than one billion years does not sound like anything like enough time to form the Universe as we see it today ,,,BIG BANG BUSTED

Yes, something intelligent or even some kind of chemicals started our universe, yet what or who started it? we cant look in the pas but we we can look at the clues or something. yet, what is the fate of our beloved universe? we have heard of black holes, or other dimentions. could the possiblity of the other dimentions could have intelligent beings that started our universe. and as i was looking through the suggestions i read that some ppl were saying that our universe didnt start with a big bang. yet what did happened in the begginging where it all happened? so may be a being did start everything. or something elese..................

Most of the density of the Universe must be in the form on "dark energy," a weird form of energy whose gravity is the opposite of that for normal matter and energy.

i believe one day human will come back to the original state, but the envirmont will be no longer existe as before, the earth die.

our sun will not become a black hole, it has to be 3.2 solar masses to become a black hole, so baring the possibility of two more stars coming from out of no where and combining with our sun it will never be a black hole.

Yes , the point was it's life cycle is about 10 billion years , before it does whatever it is going to do ,
So how long do you think , schonovic for the supermassive black holes to be formed . we can see at the edge of our known universe large old galaxies ,and their image is 13 billion years old ,do you think that leaves enough time for the universe as we see it to be formed ,?????????
how could the universe as we see it today have formed in less than one billion years when we know the cycle of a star is about 10 billion years and the supermassive black holes contain millions of suns worth of matter ,
we are looking at galaxies older than the bang ,!!!
big bang is busted , !!!!!

Guth said that the expansion of the universe occured rather quickly, in fact, faster than light so if the universe can expand faster than light all of our observations are unsubstantial.

If the universe can expand faster than light , what caused it to slow down , and then start accelerating again ,???
It makes no difference how fast it expanded if thats what it did , there are very old galaxies that have a very old image of themselves , 13 billion plus at least 10 billion for time to evolve to the point the large old galaxy had .
and we have galaxies that are at least 23 billion years old ,
they existed before the bang , therefore ,
"all that we see in the night sky did not come of any little bang we might have had" ,,,...

where are you getting your information? i've never heard of a 23 billion year old galaxy. i agree that all we see in the night sky did not come from a little bang and it wasn't a bang. i believe what we see is not all there is, but that is just my conjecture.

Getting good info can be difficult , we are being bombarded with spin , from the BB theorists, it's really hard to find any conflicting info ,so google ,the biggest black holes , or the oldest galaxies , you will find that we can see images as old as 13 billion years old . the images are of fully formed large old galaxies ,,!!! ,do the maths , how long does it take to get a galaxy to that point ,[large and old], it didn't happen overnight ,, google ,the life cycle of galaxies ,it's all there but we have to piece it together ourselves , as the spin doctors want us to believe the bbt because it creates the idea that there was a moment of creation ,,!!! and then the religious nutters of our world can still believe their nonsense about god and creation ,
So be aware , if you are going to challenge the bbt , you are challenging christianity , and the god delusion ,,!!!

i like you have some of my own theories so in order for us not to but heads here i'm just gonna say that i agree with most of modern theories except dark matter or dark energy i have my own theories on the effects that scientists use to support those theories,however;i'm not going to discuss those here. my idea is that the universe is infinite but runs in finite cycles that is all.

Births and rebirths of the galaxies , not the universe , as the Hindu's put it ,the galaxies ,butting heads is good , don't be afraid of a little testosterone , having different points of view is how we debate the issues , if it was just a mutual admiration society , we wouldn't learn anything or challenge ourselves to grasp new ideas .
I certainly want to but heads with christianity , religion in general really ,I don't think we are going to evolve anymore , until we drop the superstition ,we are stuck in a moment of time ,like a possum in the headlights we just sit there waiting for the train to run over us .
If we are ever going to topple religion , some serious head butting will be required for sure .

I would explain the Big Bang by the electron rest mass increasing from then, as the speed of light proportionally slows down since the Big Bang to explain red shift, this would also allow computer models of dark matter stars to explain what the first stars were like. This would also allow a Big Rip 22 billion years from now by every astronomical object of size shrinking by increased electron rest mass before a slower speed of light forces past the event horizon. Supermassive black holes are the current state of the Big Rip. Light inside the event horizon would behave like seismic waves on Earth.
The half-life of Th-232 is approximately the age of the Universe, and the half-life of U-238 is approximately the age of the Sun, and U-238 is stabilized as a nuclear molecule of helium-6 in valence with an inner core of Th-232. The Sun would use helium-6 in valence under intense pressure to favor the proton-proton chain over carbon-nitrogen-oxygen nuclear fusion. The approach of nuclear reactor critical mass would catalyze cold nuclear fusion like muons in liquid deuterium. Any Bk-247 produced in a light water nuclear reactor would be proof of critical mass catalyzed cold nuclear fusion.

Volcilord ,,,sounds impressive , but what does it mean ,
if you can't put it in terms that the average punter can understand , whats the point .
While I can sort of get an idea of what your on about , you really don't spell it out in a manner that makes it easy ,
rest mass , for people who didn't take physics 1 o 1 ,
we aren't familiar with these terms ,
I don't get your explanation for how or why the universe slows down , only to re-accelerate again,,???
so do me a favour ,spell it out , assume you are chatting to a dumby ,a brainless individual with no knowledge on the subject ,
speed of light proportionally slows down ,,???
what ???,,,you need to write a paragraph for each of these claims ,if your going in to the theory of relativity ,
be aware it is only a theory .
looking at the evidence ,
I see an infinite static universe ,
and we are looking at images older than 13.7 billion years ,!!!
I think the bbt is busted , plain a simple it can't didn't happen , and like the spin on the war in Iraq ,
the spin will keep coming until it is obvious ,
we have been had , and they can't keep up the pretense any longer ,,!!!!

I made it very easy on the math leaving that part for the computer whizzes. A look at the CRC Handbook of Chemistry and Physics table of the isotopes will show the effect of helium-6 in valence of a nuclear molecule for stability. Ra-226, Th-232, U-238, Pu-244, and Cm-250 are unusually stable by this. Nuclear molecule theory is Scientific American 1980. The Big Rip is by New Scientist. Making red shift match an increasing electron rest mass over time was my idea, and slowing the speed of light over time fits the concept of dark energy perfectly. Black Hole Hawking radiation could be how Th-232 exists since nearly the start of time. Helium-6 stripping by hydrogen of large nuclear molecules in a nuclear reactor may be very difficult to prove, and the ghost of the alchemist Sir Isaac Newton would want to insert lead and Bi-209 here to see if any Au-197 magically appears in the sample.

typhoonseason-
I am one of those "only creationists" earlier mentioned. I feel compelled to say that I have found the Bible to possess the most accurate and consistent account of Creation. I believe that Christianity and science are fully compatible. Nature is far to intricate to have formed from random chemical reactions which came from a Big Bang which formed out of nothing. Hence, it follows that there was originally a Creator. Some may claim aliens as the creators, but who created the aliens? God is the only answer.

The difference between science and religion is that even Judaism has origins in mythology, as Adama the Mesopotamian Earth god was Adam in Adam an Eve. Monotheism forms when one god out of a pantheon is worshiped as the true God. Marduk vs the 7-headed dragon Tiamat in Babylon becomes Bel and the Dragon under King Darius, then St. Michael the Archangel vs Satan the 7-headed dragon in the Book of Revelation. Myths seen to never die as only the names change.
Jesus has to his credit that his parable of the rich man and the beggar Lazarus describes the planet Venus perfectly, the 900 degree surface glowing red at night as observed by the Galileo spacecraft on it's way to the planet Jupiter, as 35 miles up in the clouds it is a pleasant 60 degrees which is where Lazarus in Abraham's bosom is best placed. The Earth's atmosphere will levitate a blimp if placed 35 miles up in the atmosphere of Venus and algae will regenerate any oxygen needed. Like the Pharisees Jesus did believe in a heaven and hell, and the whole planet Venus gets a German umlaut, and early 1800's sermons did believe in the whole Bible unmodified.

Volcilord, shadowstorm, littlebang- Marduk and Bel were pagan deities, and do not equate to St. Michael. Judaism is not based in mythology. God is an absolute truth, setting moral absolutes for the world.
Suppose you held all power, but you were the only being in existence. Who could praise or glorify your omnipotence? In the same way, God ,in the beginning, created heaven and earth, nature,wildlife, and humans for the purpose of bringing Him glory. Even as we humans are proud of our inventions and creations, God loves us as the work of His hands.
However, despite the undeniable evidence for God's existence, men forsake His perfect will to follow their own sinful desires and lusts. God can have nothing to do with sin, and there is nothing that men can do to reconcile with Him. Therefore, because He loves us, God came to earth as a man, and intentionally died on the cross as the perfect sacrifice. Jesus Christ is the only Way, Truth, and Life.
Those who believe in His life, death, and resurrection will be with Him in heaven after death.
The other alternative? Hell. It sounds harsh for a loving God to eternally punish someone, but those who go there have chosen it by denying Christ. Also, if a man can't stand to have anything to do with Jesus Christ for this short life on earth, how would he like to spend eternity with Him?
Jesus said that "he who accepts Me on earth, him I will accept before My Father in heaven; but he who denies Me on earth, him I will deny before My Father in heaven."
It is all your personal choice! If you accept Christ, and nothing else in your life succeeds- if you lose all your possessions in living for Christ, or even your very life- it is worth it, for your reward will be great in heaven. Remember that, for all the treasure of the earth that is or was or will be cannot compare to the merest fraction of the eternal reward which a believer in Christ will receive.
Without Christ in your life, all you have is worthless-
you may be wealthy,good-looking, and popular, but when you die, what will it matter? Your possessions will rust,rot, and decay, and your name will be forgotten, and you will live in eternal regret.
I say all this out of the love which I have received from Christ- how can I be silent? After all, if you came upon a cliff, and found that many people were about to unknowingly fall off of it, and you had any morals at all, would you not stop and warn as many as you could. It is my duty, and that of all Christians, to exhort you and all unbelievers to follow Christ, and save your eternal lives from destruction.
God loves you. Can't you love Him?

Dark energy is the opposition to the formula of conservation of energy :- E=MC^2.Space warp is a situation were space collapses for short duration of time but dark energy expands the universe. if dark energy is not there then the universe also collapses.

There is no need for people to worry about the ultimate fate when a mere cycle of the universe will completely destroy us in a big crunch and another big bang. we can't survive that with any technology that we can even dream of. only religion provides us with a mere hope of eternal survival and that's not what this discussion is about. i myself have theories about light and space-time that confirm the cyclic universe theory discussed by the late Carl Sagan however i'm not willing to discuss them until i have learned enough physics to back up my claims,sorry. but i will say that the universe cycles over and over and will not eternally expand as is currently thought by cosmologists.

UNIVERSE WILL BE BEST EXPLAIN BY UNDERSTANDING FIRST HOW GRAVITY WORKS..BECAUSE LIGHT IS AFFECTED BY GRAVITY, SO LIGHT PASSING LENS OF CAMERA HAD INFLUENCED FIRST BY GRAVITATIONAL WAVES,RESULTING FOOLING VISION EFFECT,WHICH IN TURN WE OBSERVE UNIVERSE AS IF EXPANDING.

FOR EXAMPLE GRAVITATIONAL WAVES OF EARTH EXTEND ITS RADIUS FROM EARTH OUTWARD EVERY DIRECTION WITH VELOCITY OF 30447042.19 MILES PR SECOND OPPOSING SPEED OF LIGHT FROM EVERY DIRECTION INCLUDING SUNLIGHT UNTIL REACHING 30447042.19MILES WHILE TRAVELLING IN CURVED SPACE AND TIME THEN FALL BACK INTO EARTH WITH 9.81METERS PR SECOND VELOCITY AFTER BEING QUANTIZED BY SOLAR RADIATION. FALL BACK WITH SAME SPEED AS HOW OBJECTS WITH DIFFERENT MASS FALL,FOLLOWS PATH OF EARTH'S MAGNETIC FIELD THAT CREATE EARTH'S ROTATION AND REVERSE EFFECT WHICH ITS NOT AS IF LIGHT THAT FALL RATHER (REVERSE EFFECT), EARTH FALL INTO QUANTIZING ORBIT,THAT RESULTS ORBITAL VELOCITY [186 T0 434MILES PR SECOND]

OBJECTS WITH DIFFERENT MASS AS WELL AS LIGHT - FALL WITH SAME 9.81 OR .0060822MILES PR SECOND BY ABSORPTION OF EARTH'S GRAVITATIONAL WAVE ENERGY WHICH ITS PRESSURE AND VELOCITY IS SO FIXED THAT ONLY ATOMS AND PARTICLES SENSES AND NOT BY OUR CONSCIOUSNESS. JUST LIKE PRESSURE OF AIR IS NOT CRUSHING US BECAUSE OUR BODY HAS ITS PRESSURE THAT BALANCES ATMOSPHERICAL PRESSURE.

EVERY ATOM OF OUR BODY ATTRACTS ENERGY FROM EARTH IN LESS TO GREATER THAN SPEED OF LIGHT THAT CAUSES US AND EVERY OBJECT TO FALL IN SAME FREE FALL VELOCITY.

IN THIS CASE HYDROGEN IS THE HEAVIEST ELEMENT SINCE ITS ENERGY ABSORPTION VELOCITY IS THE FASTEST..

TO VERIFY THAT LIGHT IS BEING INFLUENCED BY GRAVITATIONAL WAVE LET US ASSUME THAT 185185 MILES PR SECOND IS THE VELOCITY OF LIGHT FROM SUN AND BECOMES MORE THAN TWICE ITS ORIGINAL SPEED BY QUANTIZING OF GRAVITATIONAL WAVE OF EARTH THAT CAUSES VARIATION OF EARTH'S ORBITAL VELOCITY.

185185 C / 30447042.19 MILES/SEC. = .0060822 MILES PR SECOND--------GRAVITATIONAL VELOCITY OF EARTH. MOST
GRAVITATIONAL WAVE OF EARTH CONTINUE TO TRAVEL UNTIL ITS UNIT ENERGY IS ABSORBED BY SUN THAT RESULT ALMOST THE SAME GRAVITATIONAL ENERGY AND VELOCITY OF EARTH AND SUN.
EARTH ATTRACTS SUN BUT SUN EMITS ENERGY NEEDED BY EARTH AS SOLAR RADIATION THAT RESULT ORBITAL RADIUS. AND BY EMISSION OF EARTH'S GRAVITATIONAL WAVE ORBITAL VELOCITY RESULT.

THEREFORE GRAVITY IS EMISSION AND ABSORPTION OF ENERGY, ENERGY GIVING AND SHARING BY EQUILIBRIUM PROCESS,QUANTUM BINDING FORCE AND ABSORPTION OF QUANTUM VELOCITY.


I'M SHARING THIS THEORY TO MANKIND IN HOPE TO CONNECT IT TO TECHNOLOGY INCLUDING RELIGIOUS BELIEF..UNIVERSE IS NOT CAUSED BY ACCIDENT RATHER CREATED..

AT PRESENT I'M STILL WORKING WITH THIS THEORY AND GIVE VALUE FOR SO MANY MISSING UNITS AND MUST HAVE TO COMPARE WITH THEORIES PROVEN BY SCIENCE AND MAKE IT PUBLISH.. BUT MY TIME IS BEING CONSUMED MOSTLY ON HOW TO SURVIVE IN LIFE.. I'M A POOR PHYSICIST..


FOR THOSE WHO INTEREST AND WANTS MORE INFORMATION REGARDING THIS THEORY PLEASE CONTACT


ROMMEL M. RAMIZARES
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I explain the Big Bang by slowing the speed of light with time as proportionally the electron rest mass increases, so that a smaller physical Earth appears not to have changed in size by the speed of light being proportionally slower. You may want to read my earlier comments here. Neutral weak current may ignore the speed of light by probability, and if the critical mass used by nuclear reactors can be explained as virtual intermediate vector boson use, the approach of critical mass would increasingly absorb neutrinos.
Moon toys (dorsum) need the approach of critical mass by gold to provide angel-devil style entertainment for very wealthy infants and small children. Planet Venus 35 miles up would allow a nitrogen-oxygen balloon to float which could support shrimp fed by algae. Moon toys may be actual alien life forms that get to Earth by being small enough to appear by what allows magic shows on stage. King James used the word cherumbims for dorsum when he translated cherubims on the Arc of the Covenant. The speed of light in their part of the universe may be different than on Earth.
Uranium or plutonium alloyed with mercury to give a red color to inform employees of significant material to guard with their lives, is the same substance as the Planet X death penalty, or the Planet Earth death penalty in the case of the Rosenburg stealing 10 grams of U-235 from the Manhattan Project to give to Joseph Stalin. Billy Joel mentioned the Rosenburgs in his song "We did not start the fire." Red energy metal is part of Atlantis mythology, Hero Games 5th edition has an Atlantean Age roleplaying supplement, which alerted me to why the 1930's used the name red uranium to generate excitement about the potential of U-235. A breeder nuclear reactor hooked up to a carbon dioxide laser death ray on a nuclear submarine would make perfect Atlantis mythology by Orsen Wells novel "War of the Worlds."

I'M SORRY HAVING NOT TO USE OR UNDERSTAND MOST OF ALL SCIENTIFIC TERMS, I JUST HAVE GRADUATED HIGH SCHOOL. ALSO SORRY FOR ALWAYS USING CAPITAL LETTERS,I'M JUST RENTING COMPUTER,THIS IS FOR ECONOMICAL REASON.

THERE'S LOT OF THING TO DO FOR A MAN LIKE ME IN ORDER TO SURVIVE IN LIFE,BUT CURIOSITY I THINK WILL ALWAYS BE AN ENDLESS CHILDHOOD OF MANKIND,I'M ONE OF THEM..VASTNESS OF UNIVERSE FOR ME IS A MYSTERY,WONDERING HOW IT HAPPEN AND WHERE IT ORIGINATES,IF BIG BANG WAS ITS ORIGIN.. WHO PUT FOR ITS COMBUSTIBLE SUBSTANCES? AND WHO IGNITED IT? YOU MAY ANSWER, THAT IT WAS IGNITED BY ITS NUCLEAR REACTIONS.. TO BELIEVE BIG BANG, YOU MUST KNOW WHERE DO PARTICLES OF EVERY ATOM ORIGINATES..WE UNDERSTAND IT TODAY BY SCIENCE..BUT WE CANNOT BASE FROM SCIENCE EVER THE EXPLANATION ABOUT IT,SINCE WE CANNOT EVEN EXPLAIN HOW WE THINK AND HOW OUR BRAIN FUNCTIONS..THE ENGINUITY OF MANKIND IS JUST A FOOLNESS OF GOD AND OUR STRENGHT IS JUST HIS VERY WEAKNESS.
WE HAVE NOTHING TO BOAST OF.

FOR ME I BELIEVE THAT UNIVERSE WAS CREATED,BUT BY WHAT EVER WAY IT WAS, ITS JUST LIKE WORDS IN BIBLE THAT EVEN EDUCATED PERSON CANNOT UNDERSTAND,BECAUSE IT WAS LOCKED.

BY THIS REASON WE FORMULATED THEORIES TO REVEAL SECRETS OF UNIVERSE,CAUSE GOD KNOWS THAT BY DOING SO,WE CAN BENEFIT
OUT OF IT.THAT'S WHY AT PRESENT WE CAN TALK EVEN WITHOUT KNOWING ITS OTHER.. BY THIS COMPUTER.. WHEN WELL I OWN EVEN ONE? GOD KNOWS....CAUSE HE PLANNED EVERYTHING,WHY I'M SAYING THIS?CAUSE EVEN A SMALLEST .0000001 UNIT OF PARTICLE'S MASS AND ENERGY- HE KNOWS..CAUSE HE CREATED IT

.0000001 MASS IS GRAVITATIONAL MASS OF SUN'S CORE AND EARTH'S CORE,WILL IT BE BALANCED BY BIG BANG?
UNIVERSE MAYBE EXPANDING BUT NOT CAUSE OF BIG BANG,RATHER ABSORPTION AND EQUILIBRIUM OF ENERGY CAUSES IT. JUST LIKE ORBITING OF EARTH IS CAUSED BY ABSORPTION OF EXCESSIVE .0012983 TO MORE THAN .002 ENERGY FROM SOLAR RADIATION TAKING PLACE AT EAST SIDE OF EARTH.CAUSING 185 TO 434 MILES/SECOND ORBITAL VELOCITY OF EARTH BY QUANTIZING WITH 186000 MILES PR SECOND SPEED OF LIGHT AS ABSORBED BY THE ATMOSPHERE OF EARTH ..THIS IS ANOTHER UNIVERSAL GRAVITATION FOLLOWING AS STRAIGHT PATH AS POSSIBLE BUT CURVED BY CONSERVATION OF MASS BETWEEN SUN AND EARTH..BECAUSE GRAVITATION IS GIVING AND SHARING OF ENERGY.. YOU SEE?, EVEN NATURE TEACHES US LOVE. CAUSE GOD IS LOVE .

HOW MASS IS CONSERVED IN EARTH'S CORE?
IT'S BY EQUATING ENERGY DIFFERENCE FROM SUNLIGHT:
E FROM SUNLIGHT - GRAVITATIONAL E OF EARTH = .5652548
CHECK: .5652548 X .006 X .000016=.0000001 GRAVITATIONAL MASS OF CORE.


HOW MASS CONSERVED IN THE CORE OF SUN?
BY EQUATING DISTANCE BETWEEN SUN AND EARTH TO FIND NEGATIVE ENERGY OF EARTH WHICH IS 2.6314101
CHECK: 2.6314101 X .000016 X SPEED OF LIGHT DEVIDED BY SUN- EARTH DISTANCE = .0000001 GRAVITATIONAL MASS OF SUN'S CORE.

FROM COMPUTATION HOW IT SOLVE.. BLANKS IN ELECTRONEGATIVITY
OF SOME ELEMENT IN PERIODIC TABLE CAN BE FILL WITH.

Material under pressure has increased electronegativity without changing the element number. Material studied for electronegativity at diamond anvil pressures by laser absorption do show this, as laser heating allows the study of changed melting points due to pressure. Palm fire produced by stage magician may be brighter and hotter if somehow he could compress his fuel by diamond anvil first. Diamond anvils are typically pumped by hand due to only a tiny amount of material to be compressed. High pressure is the only way to be more electronegative than fluorine at atmospheric pressure.
Ultraintense pressure at the center of stars like the Sun may force electron capture in U-238 to create stable by pressure only Th-238. Add 3 helium atoms to Th-238 to get Cm-250. At such pressure Cm-250 may emit C-12 instead of fission spontaneously. Cm-250 produced by hydrogen bomb explosion by the over 4 billion year half-life of U-238 being the Sun's age, may allow the Sun today to fuse a tiny amount of helium into carbon even with hydrogen still present at the core. By sheer pressure, elements missing at the Earth's surface due to a short half life, would exist in the Sun's core.

MASS OF HELIUM IS 4.0026 X 3 HELIUM MASS = 12.0078 IF ADDED TO TH 238 = CM-250.0078

WE ONLY MEASURE MASS OF CM HERE ON EARTH WITH ONLY MASS OF 250 BECAUSE .0078 HAS BEEN QUANTIZED BY 185185.8 ENERGY FROM SUNLIGHT WHILE THIS .0078 MASS IS BEING EMITTED BY EARTH OUTWARD WITH 30447042.19 MILES PR SECOND TRAVELLING EARTH TO SUN DISTANCE 92956000 MILES AND BEING ABSORB BY SUN'S .OO60822 MILES/SECOND GRAVITY THAT RESULTS 77786.6463944 VELOCITY WHICH IS BEING ABSORBED BY .0000001 MASS OF SUN'S CORE . THE RESULT IS .0077787 OR .0078 MASS

.0078 X 185184.8 X 30447042.19 = 439788459714.612 / 92956000 = 473.1159846 / .0060822 = 77786.9624406 X .0000001 = .0078

WHERE .0060822 MILES/SEC OR 9.81 METERS/SECOND IS THE GRAVITATIONAL VELOCITY OF SUN SAME HERE ON EARTH

.0000001 IS THE MASS OF SUN'S CORE AS OF EARTH'S CORE

SINCE UNIVERSE IS EQUILIBRIUM OF MASS AND ENERGY


THEREFORE MISSING ELEMENT IN THE SURFACE OF EARTH IS NOT BECAUSE OF ITS SHORT HALF LIFE,RATHER BECAUSE UNIVERSAL GRAVITATION IS GIVING AND SHARING OF ENERGY. THE EARTH EMITS ENERGY NEEDED BY SUN AND SUN EMITS BACK IN FORM OF SOLAR RADIATION. BUT NOT JUST BETWEEN SUN AND EARTH INCLUDING STARS,OTHER PLANETS,METEORS, SPACE, AND OTHERS
THAT RESULTS BENDING OF DISTANT LIGHT.

I read again the explanation about reason that universe is expanding.

If big bang existed so long ago,how will the universe be flat? as we know that an explosion if occur, the result from center of explosion must be in every direction, i've never imagine explosion that results only one direction from center of explosion, with only one direction of fragment going left and the opposite going right,it must be all direction.

Also the color from explosion if big bang happened as being used as footprint of past must have erased by time..

That observation must have to suggest something to explain.

What is being observe in the universe in our present time is time itself. Time is the product of mass and energy( t = me ) which is equal to one second,the speed of light.

WHAT IS BEING OBSERVE BY OBSERVATORY IN SPACE IS SCATTERED LIGHT FROM DISTANT SOURCE..THIS MAY CALL AS GRAVITATIONAL LIGHT SCATTERING...WHICH IS CAUSED BY ENERGY ABSORPTION FROM LIGHT OF DISTANT SOURCE.
IF POSSIBLE TO CALCULATE THE SPEED OF LIGHT FROM CENTER OF FOCAL POINT OF THE OBSERVED SAID FOOTPRINT OF PAST THE RESULT OF LIGHT SPEED FROM CENTER TO EDGE MAYBE 185353.98 MILES/SECOND (IF OBSERVATION IS IN OUTER SPACE)... AND 186119.38 TO 186168.98 MILES/SECOND ON GROUND BASE OBSERVATORY.

IF THESE RESULTED SPEED OF LIGHT IS PROVEN, IT MEANS THAT THE FOOT PRINT OF PAST IS THE TIME WHICH LIGHT HAD TRAVEL FROM DISTANT SOURCE, SCATTERED IN EVERY DIRECTION DUE TO ENERGY ABSORPTION IT CONTAINED.

PREDICTION:
LIGHT FROM THAT SOURCE MAY ONLY BE OBSERVE CLOSER WHEN ORBITAL VELOCITY OF EARTH IS FASTER THAN 186 MILES/SECOND.

I jst got to the Star Trek exhibition at the St Louis Science Center at the internet exhibit. A superior solid rocket fuel that is almost impossible to make, let alone in 100 ton quanities, is the correct fuel mixed compressed by diamond anvil to improve the specific impulse by the use of pressure equal to the center of the Earth. Once the tremendous energy of compression is supplied, it requires manifestation use as for a rabbit pulled from a hat to put it into a solid rocket fuel booster. This is an excellent thought experiment though.
A ramjet (afterburner) heated by carbon dioxide laser from ground would be easier to do to get a payload into orbit. A ramjet is the acoustical version of a triode amplifying velocity instead of voltage by injecting burning fuel into a supersonic airflow that can move only in one direction, backwards to the aircraft.
A railgun tethered by balloon to up in the stratosphere would remove much air resistance to get a payload into orbit, but high g-forces prevent astronaut use and favor at least 50% pure iron in the projectile to get a package into space.
Before the Big Bang if explained by slowing the speed of light, electrons would not exist and sound waves could travel through space. Moon toys, meat puppets, dorsum, cherubims, and the like appear by the approach of critical mass by gold of the very wealthy for infants to enjoy. Sound but not light can break the speed of light under these conditions. The problem of Star Trek is that instead of first contact with humanoid life, you get first contact with meat puppets which are much smaller.

I did not seen that exhibition you are trying to compare for the beginning of universe.
You said that before big bang if explained by slowing the speed of light,electrons would not exist and sound waves could travel to space.
Can you explain what source of light was there before the big bang? ( if that bang happened)
explain how electrons would not exist that time.
compare electron rest mass by slowing speed of light,
what is the rest mass of light?

Particles of earth always found in pairs like hydrogen atom.
Electron of hydrogen composed of particles,much more its nucleus.

imagine if we separate hydrogen electron from its nucleus then put it in outer space,then can you compare light speed and electron rest mass?

Something may happen if this be done, if you put 1 electron to outer space, all of its contained particles will scattered in all direction with the speed equal to speed when they form as mass , why? because outer space has no gravity letting every particle to search energy they required. Where then will they go?
Abcourse to the direction of light and energy source,the sun,but rushing solar radiation particles will quantized some of it and travel as one affecting velocity of light due to absorption.
This is because that light travels in medium of energies.
And particles of that electron don't just wait for energy in the form of light to come on them, they will be mutual as if opposite poles of magnet attracts each other.

we may not believe since we may not experiment and observe by our limited eye sight. But i believe on every mind even i don't see the very brain. Much more i believe the Creator.

God is perfect
He is manipulating equations of verse.

If Th-232 by a 14.1 billion year half life existed due to intense gravitational fields before the Big Bang, the muon would exist stable instead of the electron with a mass that increases with time, and sound waves instead of light would travel through space with a speed that slows with time until sound cannot propagate in outer space. Globular clusters if they formed before the Big Bang would keep their distinctve form unlike open star clusters. Before the Big Bang neutrons stable because electrons do not exist, would not be able to collapse fully to form stars to allow the transmission of sound, but heavier elements that substitute muons for electrons would collapse to form stars. Conditions deep inside a neutron star would be like matter before the Big Bang.
Approach of nuclear reactor critical mass may allow teleport of what stage magicians like to show the public. The intermediate vector boson would also be the term critical mass in addition to 91 billion electron volts mass. Sound waves and potential energy instead of light could teleport here. Sound waves cause crystals to glow and levitate before they shatter if strong enough.

Before big bang as you said,neutron is stable because electrons do not exist.

Where do neutron originates?

Since you still a fan of big bang can you equate velocities of fragments due to big bang, that results distances of galaxies in universe?
What ere those fragments? their mass? and what equation fits for them to form planets,stars and others that are present in universe?

As i've told you i'm just a high school graduate,it is unfair for me discussing someone who is knowledgiable than me.
But pls. be fair,between us, you are the one that must make me believe.
Every time i face computer my mind works fast than my fingers are.Even I don't understand every terms of physics,still i'm trying to understand cause i want to feed my curiousity. Maybe the only way for me to understand better is in form of equations.

thanks!

Dont worry about the fate of our universe. God made it. He knows when it will end and NONE of us do!

Cosmology is a branch of philosophy where the humanities includes input from natural science. Early 1800's cosmology starts the Universe in the Garden of Eden 4004 BC, not knowing that the original patriarchs were in a fully pagan society that gradually developed into Moses with the Ten Commandments and Torah. Ultra long lives is like Hindus in a trance relating their past lives. Darwin created public uproar with his theory of evolution, and even Mary Baker Eddy of Christian Science denied Darwin rather than be guilty of denying the cross. The Universalist-Unitarian church movement considers humanities to be the expression of religion, so cosmology of today would be holy enough to them to have it ordination of priests material.
I believe that a force faster than light exists besides gravity, which would allow the center of the Sun to swap U-238 for Eh-234 + He-4, so that the Sun does not need carbon to complete hydrogen nuclear fusion. The over 4 billion year half life of U-238 would be the age of the Sun. U-238 would be a natural nuclear molecule of Th-232He-6, with the He-6 in valence, where it would be easier for high pressure hydrogen to fuse with it over carbon. Under intense pressure U-238 would capture two electrons to become stable under pressure only Th-238. He-6 in valence would still fuse with hydrogen at the center of the Sun.

If i were have studied chemistry or physics fully in my life i may have agree or dis agree with your belief. But this i may just say.. Earth and sun have different invironment.

Part of cosmology is the history of uproars that natural science has created in the christian community. Like Galileo who was later exonerated, the position of first hell in "Dante's Divine Comedy" for philosophers not considered christian slows progress among many christian religions, as for Christian Science vs medicine.
I like the concept of the Big Rip for the ultimate fate of the universe, slowing the speed of light as electron rest mass increases from the start of the Big Bang, will cause already existing black holes plus new ones to complete the Big Rip.
Science fiction monsters can be made more exciting by making it like an exorcism to remove them. Christian cosmology includes "Dante's Divine Comedy," as well as demonology that can be read to add, copyright free, an exciting monster scene to any movie that is willing to make minor changes to a demon. The military's Predator robotic aircraft that can spy before bombing the enemy by a soldier using a computer monitor back at base, could be made into a modern day Wicked Witch of the East in a remake of "The Wiz." Just show Ozzie Osborn in military clothing behind the joystick and computer monitor of a predator aircraft in Afghanistan for "Wizards and Demons."

Black hole is the result of time= zero within some place of universe.

Mass and vacuum of space rivals energy absorption in which at the end of time vacuum wins the game,black hole the evidence of time zero or a place in universe where time had passed and not found its existence. AS black hole is absence of light then it is absence of time.

I just read in the news about CERN finding evidence for the Higgs Boson around 125 GEV versus 91 GEV for the intermediate vector boson. Dark matter theory models that would substitute for the electron a lighter mass lepton that would transmit energy by faster than light, would have reduced strength chemical bonds, and would have a modified periodic table that stops for relatively stable material at Th-232 instead of U-238. The intermediate vector boson for this dark matter may be the 125 GEV CERN result. The dark matter universe would last longer than the 22 billion more years that the Big Rip theory gives to the visible universe. The interior of neutron stars could be of this dark matter to allow the escape of heat at faster than light, to prevent collapse to a black hole when a star cannot be a white dwarf. Dorsum, moon toys given to infants that disappear and reappear by magic trick, may also be of this dark matter, and it is made visible by hoarding gold and the like to nearly nuclear reactor critical mass. Hafnium, element 72, has critical mass of commercial value, and gold is element 79. Dorsum gold by weakened bonding, would have a red color like plutonium or uranium mixed with mercury.

So how it connects to fate of universe discussion?

That will be much better if help to prove that universe is a large scale structure of an atom.

One thing to prove is by nature of light, so universe is not a product from accidental big bang,rather created following laws of G=me in finite T=me appointed by God.


( G=me ) or gravity is the product of mass and energy so is the time results.

If the Big Bang is explained by slowing the speed of light with time with proportionally increasing the electron rest mass, so that a slowed speed of light cannot be caught by scientific instruments; red shift since the Big Bang becomes obvious, and the universe will end about 22 billion years from now according to the Big Rip theory. In the Big Rip the observed universal expansion tears apart everything, just like matter plunging into a black hole.
Dark matter may use a lepton less massive than the electron to transmit energy faster than light. The dark matter periodic table would have uranium-238 very unstable, and thorium-232 would be rare. Weak bonds for a lepton lighter than an electron would make an isotope like O-16 the most stable dark matter isotope instead of Fe-56. Dark matter would be less dense than ordinary matter due to weaker lepton bonding. Since energy transmission for dark matter would be faster than light, the Big Rip would be delayed for dark matter.
The intermediate vector boson for the dark matter lepton would be 125 GEV as observed for a new particle at CERN, instead of 91 GEV for the electron. CERN collision fragments could produce dark matter at high enough energy to produce the newly observed particle. The Tevatron did not use enough brute force in the collisions to affect results by dark matter physics.

Dark matter may not be produce from any collisions,but may be observe then disappear. for me dark matter is not a mass or matter,its a form of energy- the equivalent of time,it absorbs mass then become matter.

It maybe in a form of mass before physical universe was,by applying t=me equation,it will be either energy or mass,this mass and energy is contained in matter at present universe.

Black hole is comparable to white and dark shirt
Wearing white shirt during sunny day feels us cooler because light reflects from it
Wearing dark shirt during sunny day feels us warmer because dark absorbs light
This is the function of dark matter,absorbing energy from light and particles
Astronomer observe black hole in the center of some galaxy,this means that some are still in maturing process governed by t=me in some galaxy,this black hole holds as possible every physical thing that nears it,by energy absorption inward. It then follows that light may travel faster inward baby galaxy.

Our milky way galaxy may have matured enough that results balanced physical equilibrium that follows process in t=me. As we may observe that center of milky is glowing yet,so it then follows that light much travel fast outward from its center than inward.

Therefore speed of light must not be the bases for the big bang theory.

I think before the universe,it was a vast space
space = energy
By the power of God,energies been manipulated then owned each micro gravitational pull
energy = gravity
then formed mass of particle,the particle in the beginning of t=me. Followed by countless dimensions of space and t=me.. at present universal elements are countless as of sand here in earth. I believe the creator knows the count, much more the count of your hair matches the uniqueness of your finger prints that differs in each of your finger, your identity is not by others even if compared to living and not living humans of past ages.

I'm back for your comments,as there's none.
try reading Penrose-Hawking discussion forum and grand design book. Thanks !

I am not a math whiz like Steven Hawking of Albert Einstein, but I read about the Ultimate Fate of the Universe Big Rip theory in the British magazine New Scientist in 1998. When I realized that increasing the electron rest mass over time concealed by slowing the speed of light over time would explain observed red shift nicely, what happens to matter when it passes into a black hole I then realized was identical to the end of the universe as described by the Big Rip theory. Black holes are where the Big Rip has already happened. Cosmology as philosophy can make huge advances without requiring a whole lot of math.
Dark matter that has evolved more slowly than electron-based matter would fit the concept of dualism perfectly, which is the Persian-based philsophy that the Pope used frequently against early astronomers and scientists. Dante's Divine Comedy would be an example of dualism. The use of miracles, magic tricks, and dorsum (moon toys) is used to maintain dualism as religion. The hoarding of gold to the approach of nuclear reactor critical mass is the catalyst for new magic tricks and dorsum, as that is used in the modern day Mithras version of life energy level. If the nuclear reactor critical mass is the most common example of the intermediate vector boson that uses the electron, a higher mass intermediate vector boson for dark matter leptons may have been recently discovered at CERN. Near any nuclear reactor, that metal should perfectly substitute for gold brick to get dorsum to children while paying only pennies on the dollar for deficit spending. Merlin should be proud of such financial hocus pocus.

I find it so hard what dorsum is
I'm not good in math but my curiosity drives me in some equations that leads me asking for the velocity of everything which big bang caused.

Velocity = mass
therefore every mass has each different velocity,then there must be collision in heaven from time to time, in minuite , every decade or in the interval of centuries.

To further explain that velocity is equal mass,its just like throwing weighted object.. 1kg will reach far than much heavier with same force that act to throw.
If there was big bang the singularity been talked about include a single force that caused expansion of universe,where was the center of expansion?
It will automatically follow that center of universe must be the heaviest elements left that accelerates slower than element nearing the edge of universe.

The other thing i doubt about big bang is
why does pictures of galaxies are seemed perfectly following equilibrium state in their own mass relative to each other? At present, if they are all following accelerations caused by big bang,the heaviest center of galaxy must be pointing on towards the edge of universe in almost parallel direction same as of other neighboring galaxy
They must be travelling like how bad menton rocket balls obey positions in space while in their same direction and velocity
This lead me wonder also why was that game being call as bad since its a good example. Lol
Tell me then, is there a need in math?
Imagination can not be explain in math

Our internet here sometimes disconnected that results not to edit my post.
My example about game is i mean badminton that uses shuttlecock
As you can see,most of the time i need dictionary in hope to explain my side further,i'm not good in math and in words as well.
Who may believe in me? but i'm forcing my t=me not for my benefit but for all human,turn your back in belief for something accident,and don't just believe in me, i did have t=me to share and its your time to prove and search for truth.

Universe are layers and layers of elements with different massive body,why is there no collisions from the time when we begun observing universe?

Dorsum is the word used on Sir Mixalot's "Baby's Got Back" video, and it is to the television viewer the Pillsbury Dough Boy getting a tummy beep. I have also seen the word dorsum used as part of the proper name for some Martian locations seen by satellite. Recuperendo, angel and devil both on a boy's shoulders also is cartoons explaining what dorsum is.
I was born in 1965 and I moved to a new location before I was 2 years old in August 1967. My mother was in Chicago just before that move for her annual Christian Science Association meeting earlier that August, so that is where I first remember seeing dorsum as given to infants. The exact phenomena may me seeing later as an adult in a mall children being entertained by firemen using a remote control Sparky the Fire Dog driving a tiny fire engine, with the fireman speaking into a microphone and his amplified voice leaving Sparky by electronic speaker. Stage magic, including when I participated in the guillotine illusion in 1997 after seeing it six months before, would also be the same phenomena.
This may also be the same phenomena. On March 18, the afternoon before my father died from Parkinson's Disease when he was almost 84 years old, on my visit my brother was playing a Christian radio sermon at his bedside. That night in a dream I saw my father young calling to his wife Samantha. When I awoke later, I learned from the nursing home that my father died that night. Before death my father had a feeding tube and was on oxygen, almost as bad off as Steven Hawking, that disability missing in my dream.
The Big Bang perfectly describes the electromagnetic universe. The Big Rip is a plausible ending to the electromagnetic universe. Dark matter transmitting energy faster than light would be as invisible as what I had in a dream.

We all have our own story to tell,when i was a child,i wonder how a plane flies,then i ask my father about it,he replied that plane flies by magnetic attraction in heaven

But when i interred school i researched in library about something that will answer question in my mind,and i knew that plane has its gas turbine that propels its weight.

I asked myself then,why did my father replied me that plane flies by magnet..it was because that my father have not got in school,he don't know how to read,he is ignorant of things like of that plane.. My mother had just finished grade 4 in elementary,she know a little in reading...About me i finished in high school as working student,cleaning faculty,library and others for free tuition. At present a hog raiser,my income is not enough for everyday need in whole family,making me still single.

After my schooling in high school,my poor friend died by poverty as he got own family with four children,his work as construction worker made his backbone been damaged,that result in him not to work,he died in hunger. The night after he died i dreamed about him dressing white smiling at me,he got flesh as if not a poor and no damage like scars. I thought then that dream is sometimes a reality about life after death, being made by God for us not to worry for our loved one who died,i believe it wasn't my friend who made visiting me in a dream as when he was living he don't know my though since God is the only one that sees our hearth and mind,much more dark matter has nothing to do with it.If my friend's after life is not in hand of God,how will he visit me in a dream?

The Bible has dream interpretation important for Daniel the prophet with King Darius and King Nebuchadnezzar, as the two kings were fully incorporating the captured Arc of the Covenant into the national religion. The Book of Revelation is full of Babylonian imagery. Dreams do give insight into the other side.

Dream manifest in man ordained for a purpose,God owns t=me,
revealed by the story on how descendants of Israel been in Egypt then how they left that nation and conquer Canaan.

Dream don't give insight into the other side,if you compare our dream about your father and my friend,mine consumed first hours that pass,while yours even you, may not tell the difference in time in seconds answering question what happened first between your dream and death of your father.