See Ya 'Round
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See Ya 'Round is the ninth, and final album by New Zealand
's premier New Wave
band, Split Enz
, and was released in 1984, following the departure of founding member Tim Finn
, whose solo career had officially taken off the year before. Remaining songwriter Neil Finn
, claiming to be a little daunted by the prospect of leading his older brother's band, subsequently announced that this would be the final Split Enz studio recording. Since he only had an EP's worth of material ready, the record was filled out by lightweight, experimental contributions from each of the other band members. In interviews, Neil has revealed that the original EP was to have been the first five tracks on the album ("Breakin' My Back" through "Years Go By").
Neil Finn
's demos from this era included an early version of the future Crowded House
hit, "Something So Strong
" (at this point a ballad), as well as prototypes for "I Walk Away" (known as "Love and Success" and "Your Inspiration"), and "Can't Carry On". Tim Finn
had also recorded a collection of demos at Sing Sing Studios for the next Enz album, but his departure ensured that they would remain unreleased.
The album's lead single, "I Walk Away
," had a low-budget video clip which features the band protruding their faces through theatrical costume cut-outs, much like on the artwork of the album. The song was also released on a 12" single, featuring an of-its-era extended remix. Neither single nor album were released in the USA, because after most copies of 1983's Conflicting Emotions
ended up in bargain bins, the American label A&M would not risk another potential Split Enz
failure and dropped them from the roster. "I Walk Away" was later re-recorded (with a different verse) and re-released on the U.S. issue of the first Crowded House album
, as it was new to U.S. audiences. Originally intended as a goodbye to the Enz, key parts of the song were rewritten for the Crowded House
album, supposedly to reflect Neil's uncertainty of venturing away from the security of the Enz.
See Ya 'Round was initially released only in Australia and New Zealand
, charting at #29 and #5, respectively. A later release in Canada featured a grey border on the cover instead of an orange one.
After an appearance on Countdown
and the release of "One Mouth Is Fed
" as a follow-up single, the band decided to end with a proper goodbye and beckoned Tim Finn
back for one final "Enz With a Bang" tour. It is on this tour that Neil met future Crowded House
bassist and collaborator, Nick Seymour
. A live album
was released a year later featuring songs from the three Melbourne shows of this tour and the 1982 Time and Tide tour.
New Zealand
New Zealand is an island country in the south-western Pacific Ocean comprising two main landmasses and numerous smaller islands. The country is situated some east of Australia across the Tasman Sea, and roughly south of the Pacific island nations of New Caledonia, Fiji, and Tonga...
's premier New Wave
New Wave music
New Wave is a subgenre of :rock music that emerged in the mid to late 1970s alongside punk rock. The term at first generally was synonymous with punk rock before being considered a genre in its own right that incorporated aspects of electronic and experimental music, mod subculture, disco and 1960s...
band, Split Enz
Split Enz
Split Enz were a New Zealand band of the 1970s and early 1980s featuring Phil Judd and brothers Tim Finn and Neil Finn. They achieved chart success in New Zealand, Australia, and Canada during the early 1980s ‒ most notably with the single "I Got You", and built a cult following elsewhere...
, and was released in 1984, following the departure of founding member Tim Finn
Tim Finn
Brian Timothy "Tim" Finn, OBE is a New Zealand singer and musician. Finn is most known for his music with New Zealand 1970s and 1980s rock group Split Enz, and later for his solo work, a temporary membership in his brother Neil's band Crowded House and his joint efforts with Neil Finn as the Finn...
, whose solo career had officially taken off the year before. Remaining songwriter Neil Finn
Neil Finn
Neil Mullane Finn, OBE is a New Zealand Pop recording artist. Along with his brother Tim Finn, he was the co-frontman for Split Enz and is now frontman for Crowded House...
, claiming to be a little daunted by the prospect of leading his older brother's band, subsequently announced that this would be the final Split Enz studio recording. Since he only had an EP's worth of material ready, the record was filled out by lightweight, experimental contributions from each of the other band members. In interviews, Neil has revealed that the original EP was to have been the first five tracks on the album ("Breakin' My Back" through "Years Go By").
Neil Finn
Neil Finn
Neil Mullane Finn, OBE is a New Zealand Pop recording artist. Along with his brother Tim Finn, he was the co-frontman for Split Enz and is now frontman for Crowded House...
's demos from this era included an early version of the future Crowded House
Crowded House
Crowded House are a rock band, formed in Melbourne, Australia and led by New Zealand singer-songwriter Neil Finn. Finn is the primary songwriter and creative director of the band, having led it through several incarnations, drawing members from New Zealand , Australia and the United States...
hit, "Something So Strong
Something So Strong
"Something So Strong" is a rock song written by Neil Finn and performed by the band Crowded House for their debut album Crowded House. It was released as the album's final single. The song lends its title to the book Something So Strong by Australian biographer Chris Bourke, which catalogues the...
" (at this point a ballad), as well as prototypes for "I Walk Away" (known as "Love and Success" and "Your Inspiration"), and "Can't Carry On". Tim Finn
Tim Finn
Brian Timothy "Tim" Finn, OBE is a New Zealand singer and musician. Finn is most known for his music with New Zealand 1970s and 1980s rock group Split Enz, and later for his solo work, a temporary membership in his brother Neil's band Crowded House and his joint efforts with Neil Finn as the Finn...
had also recorded a collection of demos at Sing Sing Studios for the next Enz album, but his departure ensured that they would remain unreleased.
The album's lead single, "I Walk Away
I Walk Away
"I Walk Away" is the last semi-widespread release by New Zealand art rock group Split Enz from their last studio album See Ya 'Round. It was written by Neil Finn and released as a single in 1984...
," had a low-budget video clip which features the band protruding their faces through theatrical costume cut-outs, much like on the artwork of the album. The song was also released on a 12" single, featuring an of-its-era extended remix. Neither single nor album were released in the USA, because after most copies of 1983's Conflicting Emotions
Conflicting Emotions
Conflicting Emotions is a 1983 album by New Zealand New Wave band Split Enz. Although considered by some to be their poorest release, the band themselves were more than happy with the result at the time and refused to make any of the changes requested by their Australian and US record companies.As...
ended up in bargain bins, the American label A&M would not risk another potential Split Enz
Split Enz
Split Enz were a New Zealand band of the 1970s and early 1980s featuring Phil Judd and brothers Tim Finn and Neil Finn. They achieved chart success in New Zealand, Australia, and Canada during the early 1980s ‒ most notably with the single "I Got You", and built a cult following elsewhere...
failure and dropped them from the roster. "I Walk Away" was later re-recorded (with a different verse) and re-released on the U.S. issue of the first Crowded House album
Crowded House (album)
The original release of the album in Australia and New Zealand featured "Can't Carry On" as track 8. This song was replaced by a re-recording of the Split Enz song "I Walk Away" for other markets...
, as it was new to U.S. audiences. Originally intended as a goodbye to the Enz, key parts of the song were rewritten for the Crowded House
Crowded House
Crowded House are a rock band, formed in Melbourne, Australia and led by New Zealand singer-songwriter Neil Finn. Finn is the primary songwriter and creative director of the band, having led it through several incarnations, drawing members from New Zealand , Australia and the United States...
album, supposedly to reflect Neil's uncertainty of venturing away from the security of the Enz.
See Ya 'Round was initially released only in Australia and New Zealand
New Zealand
New Zealand is an island country in the south-western Pacific Ocean comprising two main landmasses and numerous smaller islands. The country is situated some east of Australia across the Tasman Sea, and roughly south of the Pacific island nations of New Caledonia, Fiji, and Tonga...
, charting at #29 and #5, respectively. A later release in Canada featured a grey border on the cover instead of an orange one.
After an appearance on Countdown
Countdown (TV series)
Countdown was a long-running popular weekly Australian music television show broadcast by the Australian Broadcasting Corporation from 8 November 1974 until 19 July 1987. It was created by Executive Producer Michael Shrimpton, producer/director Robbie Weekes and record producer and music journalist...
and the release of "One Mouth Is Fed
One Mouth Is Fed
"One Mouth Is Fed" is the last studio single released by New Zealand art rock group Split Enz from their last studio album See Ya 'Round. It was written by Neil Finn and released as a single in 1984...
" as a follow-up single, the band decided to end with a proper goodbye and beckoned Tim Finn
Tim Finn
Brian Timothy "Tim" Finn, OBE is a New Zealand singer and musician. Finn is most known for his music with New Zealand 1970s and 1980s rock group Split Enz, and later for his solo work, a temporary membership in his brother Neil's band Crowded House and his joint efforts with Neil Finn as the Finn...
back for one final "Enz With a Bang" tour. It is on this tour that Neil met future Crowded House
Crowded House
Crowded House are a rock band, formed in Melbourne, Australia and led by New Zealand singer-songwriter Neil Finn. Finn is the primary songwriter and creative director of the band, having led it through several incarnations, drawing members from New Zealand , Australia and the United States...
bassist and collaborator, Nick Seymour
Nick Seymour
Nick Seymour is a musician, painter, and record producer. He is best known for being the bass guitarist in the Australasian rock group Crowded House and brother to Mark Seymour of another successful group; Hunters and Collectors.- Biography :Born in Benalla, Victoria, Australia, Seymour studied...
. A live album
The Living Enz
The Living Enz was the first live album released by New Zealand rock band Split Enz. Primarily recorded in Melbourne, Australia during the band's 1984 Enz With A Bang farewell tour, it also includes some material from the Auckland shows of that tour, plus recordings from the band's 1982 Time And...
was released a year later featuring songs from the three Melbourne shows of this tour and the 1982 Time and Tide tour.
Track listing
- Songs written by Neil FinnNeil FinnNeil Mullane Finn, OBE is a New Zealand Pop recording artist. Along with his brother Tim Finn, he was the co-frontman for Split Enz and is now frontman for Crowded House...
, except where noted.
- "Breakin' My Back"
- "I Walk AwayI Walk Away"I Walk Away" is the last semi-widespread release by New Zealand art rock group Split Enz from their last studio album See Ya 'Round. It was written by Neil Finn and released as a single in 1984...
" - "Doctor Love"
- "One Mouth Is FedOne Mouth Is Fed"One Mouth Is Fed" is the last studio single released by New Zealand art rock group Split Enz from their last studio album See Ya 'Round. It was written by Neil Finn and released as a single in 1984...
" - "Years Go By" (N.Finn, E.Rayner)
- "Voices"
- "The Lost Cat" (E.Rayner)
- "Adz" (N.Griggs)
- "This Is Massive" (P.Hester)
- "Kia Kaha (Ever Be Strong)"
- "Ninnie Knees UpNinnie Knees Up"Ninnie Knees Up" is the eleventh and originally the closing track from Split Enz's final studio album, See Ya 'Round. It is the only Split Enz song on which percussionist Noel Crombie sings the lead vocal, as well as his only solo composition...
" (N.Crombie)
2006 Re-release
- Songs written by Neil FinnNeil FinnNeil Mullane Finn, OBE is a New Zealand Pop recording artist. Along with his brother Tim Finn, he was the co-frontman for Split Enz and is now frontman for Crowded House...
, except where noted.
- "Breakin' My Back" – 3:54
- "I Walk AwayI Walk Away"I Walk Away" is the last semi-widespread release by New Zealand art rock group Split Enz from their last studio album See Ya 'Round. It was written by Neil Finn and released as a single in 1984...
" – 3:50 - "Doctor Love" – 4:18
- "One Mouth Is FedOne Mouth Is Fed"One Mouth Is Fed" is the last studio single released by New Zealand art rock group Split Enz from their last studio album See Ya 'Round. It was written by Neil Finn and released as a single in 1984...
" – 3:27 - "Years Go By" (N.Finn, E.Rayner) – 4:15
- "Voices" – 3:31
- "The Lost Cat" (E.Rayner) – 5:41
- "Adz" (N.Griggs) – 4:11
- "This Is Massive" (P.Hester) – 3:48
- "Kia Kaha" – 3:38
- "Ninnie Knees UpNinnie Knees Up"Ninnie Knees Up" is the eleventh and originally the closing track from Split Enz's final studio album, See Ya 'Round. It is the only Split Enz song on which percussionist Noel Crombie sings the lead vocal, as well as his only solo composition...
" (N.Crombie) – 3:20 - "Next ExitNext Exit (song)"Next Exit" is a song by New Zealand art rock group Split Enz. It was written by Tim Finn and released as a non-album single in Australia in 1983, charting at #47....
" (T.Finn)* – 3:15
- The first edition of the re-release accidentally includes "Mr. Catalyst," a Tim FinnTim FinnBrian Timothy "Tim" Finn, OBE is a New Zealand singer and musician. Finn is most known for his music with New Zealand 1970s and 1980s rock group Split Enz, and later for his solo work, a temporary membership in his brother Neil's band Crowded House and his joint efforts with Neil Finn as the Finn...
song, while the packaging is incorrectly labelled as "Next ExitNext Exit (song)"Next Exit" is a song by New Zealand art rock group Split Enz. It was written by Tim Finn and released as a non-album single in Australia in 1983, charting at #47....
", which does not appear on the album. Though either bonus track is an odd choice, as both are Tim FinnTim FinnBrian Timothy "Tim" Finn, OBE is a New Zealand singer and musician. Finn is most known for his music with New Zealand 1970s and 1980s rock group Split Enz, and later for his solo work, a temporary membership in his brother Neil's band Crowded House and his joint efforts with Neil Finn as the Finn...
songs and the album does not otherwise feature Tim at all, "Mr. Catalyst" is at least from a 1984 recording session. "Mr. Catalyst" was later released on the 1992 rarities album, "Rear EnzRear EnzRear Enz is a 1992 album of rarities released by New Zealand rock music group Split Enz, comprising b-sides, demo versions and a non-album single ranging from 1979 to 1984.-Track listing:...
". "Next Exit," on the other hand, was released as a non-album single in 1983 prior to the release of Conflicting EmotionsConflicting EmotionsConflicting Emotions is a 1983 album by New Zealand New Wave band Split Enz. Although considered by some to be their poorest release, the band themselves were more than happy with the result at the time and refused to make any of the changes requested by their Australian and US record companies.As...
and was originally recorded with extra verses during the late '70s Luton sessionsRootin Tootin Luton TapesThe Rootin Tootin Luton Tapes is a collection of demos made by New Zealand band Split Enz in 1978. During their 2006 tour of Australia it was announced that these recordings would finally be released as an official album after lengthy pressure from the fan club Frenz of the Enz.In 1978 Split Enz...
. The standard edition of the re-release properly includes "Next Exit" as listed on the packaging, though it is a 3:15 edit rather than the full-length 3:40 version available on previous album releases.
- "Breakin' My Back" is listed on the re-release as "Breaking My Back" in all instances but one.
Personnel
- Neil FinnNeil FinnNeil Mullane Finn, OBE is a New Zealand Pop recording artist. Along with his brother Tim Finn, he was the co-frontman for Split Enz and is now frontman for Crowded House...
– vocals, guitar - Eddie RaynerEddie RaynerEddie Rayner , is a New Zealand musician who has played in bands such as Split Enz, Space Waltz, Crowded House, The Makers and 801....
– keyboards, synthesizer, backing vocals - Noel CrombieNoel CrombieNoel Crombie is a New Zealand singer and former member of the band Split Enz. He fulfilled multiple roles including costume and hair designer, percussionist, album cover designer, and music video director...
– percussion, backing vocals (lead vocals on "Ninnie Knees Up") - Nigel GriggsNigel GriggsNigel Griggs is a musician who played bass guitar in Split Enz. He is the brother of Paul Griggs from the 1970s vocal group Guys 'n' Dolls...
– bass, backing vocals (all instruments and vocals on "Adz") - Paul HesterPaul HesterPaul Newell Hester was an Australian musician and television personality; he was the drummer for the related bands Split Enz and Crowded House.-The early years:...
– drums, backing vocals except on "Kia Kaha" & "Next Exit" (lead vocals on "This is Massive") - Tim FinnTim FinnBrian Timothy "Tim" Finn, OBE is a New Zealand singer and musician. Finn is most known for his music with New Zealand 1970s and 1980s rock group Split Enz, and later for his solo work, a temporary membership in his brother Neil's band Crowded House and his joint efforts with Neil Finn as the Finn...
– vocals, piano, guitar on "Kia Kaha" and "Mr Catalyst" & "Next Exit" only on the 2006 re-release - Wilbur WildeWilbur WildeWilbur Wilde is an Australian saxophonist. He rose to prominence with the bands Ol' 55, Jo Jo Zep & The Falcons...
– saxophoneSaxophoneThe saxophone is a conical-bore transposing musical instrument that is a member of the woodwind family. Saxophones are usually made of brass and played with a single-reed mouthpiece similar to that of the clarinet. The saxophone was invented by the Belgian instrument maker Adolphe Sax in 1846...
on "Voices" - Bob Venier – flugelhornFlugelhornThe flugelhorn is a brass instrument resembling a trumpet but with a wider, conical bore. Some consider it to be a member of the saxhorn family developed by Adolphe Sax ; however, other historians assert that it derives from the valve bugle designed by Michael Saurle , Munich 1832 , thus...
on "The Lost Cat" (incorrectly referred to in the liner notes of some copies by its working title, "Isolation") - International Management – Nathan D. Brenner