Why is Gaza still considered an "Israeli Occupied Teritory" when Israel completely withdrew both its military and its civilian "settlers" SIX YEARS AGO?

Looks like even Hamas agrees with you. And people pretend that the UN is not antisemitic and rotten to the core.

"The UN continues to label the Gaza Strip “occupied” by Israel, despite a Hamas leader stating this week that that’s no longer a tenable position."

http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Op-EdContributors/Article.aspx?id=252254

If the Jewish state, I do not give them the dignity of calling themselves Israel, does not occupy the Gaza then why do the people need Jewish permits to build their homes, why do they need Jewish permission to enter or leave? There is no Palestine, there are unwilling slaves longing to be a free Palestine.

I can't understand your question. What are these "Jewish Permits" you're talking about?

Why do they need "Jewish" permission to enter or leave? Because Gaza borders Israel. Leaving Gaza means entering Israel. For example, I live in Canada. Why do I need a US permit to leave and go into the US?

Why should Israel be the only country in the world that is not allowed to have a border and decide who it does and who it does not choose to allow to enter?

As for your remark: "[T]here are unwilling slaves longing to be a free Palestine.":

These "unwilling slaves" of yours elected Hamas to be their Government.

According to the Hamas Constitution:

"Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it".

http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/hamas.asp

These people don't exactly sound like "unwilling slaves" to me. These "unwilling slaves" have OFFICIALLY DECLARED through their DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED GOVERNMENT that they wish to "OBLITERATE" Israel.

Now do you understand just a tiny bit more why Israel is just a bit extra careful about its relations with a neighbouring COUNTRY called GAZA that OFFICIALLY DECLARES its intention to "OBLITERATE ISRAEL"?

If you do now understand, you were simply misinformed.

Yet if you STILL DO NOT understand, then you are certainly a racist who hates Jews and wishes that the Jewish State is "OBLITERATED".

Might as well just ask flat out: Do YOU wish the Jewish State to be "OBLITERATED"?

YES OR NO?

Thanks for the link.

Lets start with some basic facts, first Gaza also borders Egypt, but Palestinians can't enter Gaza through Egypt. The West Bank Borders Jordan, but Palestinians can't enter through Jordan because of Jewish check points. Palestinians can't fly planes into their own territory. Now consider is there a difference between Germany and Nazi Germany? Nazi Germany was obliterated so that Germany could exist. So YES the current government should be OBLITERATED so that peace and freedom can exist. PS your language is what I have come to expect from people with hate so you only prove the case that your are a bigot.

Quit dodging the question. I'm not falling for it one bit.

I'll give you one last chance to answer, failing which, you will be completely ignored as a Jew-Hating troll making yet another pathetic attempt to avoid the painfully obvious:

DO YOU OR DO YOU NOT WISH FOR THE "OBLITERATION" of the Jewish State.

YES?

or

NO?

LAST CHANCE TO BE ON RECORD AS DENYING YOUR HATRED OF JEWS.

Hamas does not call for the Obliteration of the "current Government". Hamas was formed in 1988, and throughout Israel's ENTIRE foolish attempt to make peace through the Oslo process, HAMAS MAINTAINED ITS COMMITMENT TO THE "OBLITERATION" OF THE JEWISH

S-T-A-T-E.

So quit it with your ridiculous Nazi analogies.

THE JEWISH STATE.

OBLITERATION.

YES OR NO?

Hey Squash for Brains, I did answer your questions, I can't change the fact that you are a retard and don't know how to read. ;) I am a JEW diggleberry. And you are a hate filled bigot and wish all the Palestinians died. You are the total embodiment of Hitler so I can't understand why you claim to hate a person when you practice his ideology against the Palestinian people to such a great degree. I regard your responses as comical in nature. Which either you are a complete moron or your are in favor of Palestinian genocide. And it seems easier for me to believe that you are just a moron. So PLEASE ANSWER MY QUESTION ARE YOU A MORON OR A BELIEVER IN GENOCIDE? Which one is it? YES OR NO. WHY WON'T YOU ANSWER MY QUESTION? If your answer is that "Not all answers are one thing or another of two bad responses." Then you prove by your own guides that your question is one a moron or a bigot would ask. Now how about a real question, why don't you love the Palestinians?

DO YOU WISH THE JEWISH STATE TO BE OBLITERATED?

YES OR NO.

CAN YOU READ? YES OR NO?

If STATE = PEOPLE = NO
If STATE = LAND = NO
If STATE = GOVERNMENT = YES

DO I WISH AN OBLITERATION OF THE JEWISH PEOPLE? NO
DO I WISH AN OBLITERATION OF THE LAND? NO
DO I WISH AN OBLITERATION OF THE GOVERNMENT? YES

I wish it did not exist as it has no BIBLICAL RIGHT to exist as a political entity.

DO I WISH THE FORCIBLE REMOVAL OF THE JEWISH PEOPLE? NO
DO I WISH THE RETURN OF THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE? YES

I think you need to honestly reconsider your life. Why do you hate the Palestinians so much? Why is love so far from your heart? The question you ask is a trick question based on how one defines "State" - All you want to believe is in a world where everyone hates this person or that. The truth is that I love the Jews and it pains me, as a Jew to see the mass murder they commit against the Palestinian People. You have no sympathy for the Palestinian people. May be I am wrong. Please tell me if you have one tear for their dead? All I have seen of you is a man full of wrath. Wrath and hate go hand and hand like hand and glove. Am I wasting my time in attempting to have a civil conversation with you?

From your responses I believe the following about you please correct my assumptions where needed:

If all Arabs and Palestinians disappeared from the planet you would be happy and see it as a sign of a peaceful world.

You believe the situation is completely one sided and the Jews are completely justified to take any number of lives to ensure the preservation of their government.

You believe God wants the Arabs destroyed as some sort of test of Jewish obedience. (Zionism 101)

If these things do not equal genocide than I don't know what does. Please tell me how I am mistaken about your beliefs and opinions so that I am not judging you on the basis of wrong assumptions.

You DIMWIT, you don't even know the difference between a STATE and its GOVERNMENT!

Are you some sort of telepath or something?

You seem to believe to know my political views better than I do!

I happen to be a PRO-PALESTINIAN ZIONIST, "DINGLBERRY"!

They're dying because they're being USED by the SCUM of the Earth, the DICTATORS OF THE MUSLIM WORLD, as a DISTRACTION, so they're pathetic miserable subjects don't realize that THEY'RE the problem, NOT Israel!!!

And I, along with courageous Palestinians such as my good friend MUDAR ZAHRAN, want to PUT AN END to the whole sick game!!!

I'll let Mudar fill you in, 'cause you're not only ignorant as hell, but obnoxiously arrogant about your lack of understanding of what's TRULY going on here.

http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/author/Mudar+Zahran

Anti-Semitism: The New Necessity for Arab Regimes
by Mudar Zahran

"For more than sixty years of conflict, the carefully government-channeled hatred revolved around Zionism and Israel, rather than around Judaism and Jews.

Since 2008, however, the Jordanian printed media has been launching a fierce attack on almost everything Jewish.

Why would the supposedly-moderate Jordan adopt a strong anti-Semitic agenda?

The answer to this question is simple; Jordan's oppressed Palestinian majority has been seeking more civil rights in the last few years. Therefore, the Jordanian government has to distract them by igniting anti-Semitic rhetoric.

Arab regimes apparently needed a new method to direct their own people's anger towards someone else. The US and Europe were, of course, out of the question, and the communist "infidel" states were no longer in existence. Again, Arab regimes were stuck with Israel as "the source of all evil" with no way for regimes to revive that notion: their people have become fed up after decades of propaganda. The Arab regimes' "Plan B" was to ignite an even larger religious zeal by constantly reminding their people that the Israelis are "a part of a larger Jewish scheme of controlling the world."

Today, the message has dramatically changed; media language and definitions have been surgically altered by many Arab governments. The term "Zionist" has turned into "Jews," and, for the more moderate Arab media, "Peace talks" into "Jewish opposition to peace…or world peace."

The growing trend of anti-Semitism on Arab TV shows has been vigorously picking up momentum the last few years. Anti-Semitic-themed shows have become common on many of the 300-plus Arab satellite networks, including TV Channels and media outlets owned by theoretically pro-Western Arab governments are no exception -- crossing the line from anti-Semitism to open support for terrorism.

Examples for this are countless. In January 2010, the Jordanian state television aired an interview with former Prime Minister Faisal Al-Fayez, in which he threatened Israel with "six million Jordanian suicide bombers." Al-Fayez was a Jordanian senator at the time and has recently been appointed Speaker of the House of the Jordanian Parliament.

Also, Jordanian state and privately owned televised media have been launching a massive campaign against Israel being a Jewish state -- thus making a shameless leap from anti-Zionism to anti-Semitism.

In Jordan, the government-controlled mainstream media has been promoting anti-Americanism as much as anti-Semitic propaganda. In the Jordanian media, terms like "American imperialism," "the evil American conspiracy," "The U.S. marines occupational anti-Arab ideology," and "the American-Jewish alliance to destroy the Arab Ummah [Nation]," are everyday slogans – many by writers on the government's payroll.

At the same time, anti-Semitism not only serves dictators in the Arab world to keep their oppressed people under control, it also helps them convince their Western allies that there is a serious trend of fundamentalism exhibited through anti-Semitism -- and anti-Americanism as well.

All contribute to making Western governments feel the need to support oppressive Arab regimes -- or else "face an anti-American and anti-Western public."

The Arab regimes' new-found propaganda innovation -- of deploying anti-Semitism -- also serves an old purpose: creating an enemy for their people to hate, blame, curse, protest against, and occasionally fight against -- while the Arab ruling classes can enjoy all the spoils and remain in power.

Yet, this is not easy: Arab regimes are now dealing with more informed citizens. In this age of the Internet and open space, Arab citizens have access to all information they need; it is simply not possible anymore that they will believe everything their governments tell them about "the Zionist entity," which has been a scapegoat for all failures, and -- as every criticism or peaceful opposition is immediately ruled a "Zionist plot" -- a justification to oppress Arab people,

Nonetheless, a rise in anti-Semitism, in its crude, early 20th century form, has been piercingly witnessed in the Arab media. Aside from the Hezbollah-owned and controlled al-Manar TV, the Arab media in general used to be anti-Israel and anti-Zionist, yet not particularly anti–Semitic.

It is not a secret that the Arab media is fiercely controlled by Arab governments. Despite claims of self-observed commitment to freedom of the media, several international journalism freedom bodies report that Arab countries not only systematically oppress freedom of speech but also micro-monitor most media sources -- supporting the argument that anti-Semitism in the Arab media is carefully supported and blessed by several Arab regimes.

In a recent report, the New York-based Anti-Defamation League reported several Jordanian newspapers, including those owned by the Jordanian state, as anti-Semitic. At the same time, Reporters Sans Frontières' recent report notes that Jordan's government executes a heavy censorship of the media

This time, however, the Arab regimes' rescue came from a least expected source: Osama Ben Laden.

On the second day after the US launched its attack on the Taliban of Afghanistan, after the 9-11 attacks, Ben Laden made a televised oath before millions of Arabs that "America and whoever lives there shall never see safety or security until we live it as a fact in Palestine."

Ben Laden had never mentioned "Palestine" in any of his speeches before that day. He belongs, moreover, to an ultra-orthodox school of Islamism, which views the Palestinians' fight against Israel as a fight for land, instead of for God -- and therefore not Jihad.

Ben Laden's statement was very well-thought-out and highly effective: it reached out to the hearts of those Muslims and Arabs sympathetic to the Palestinian cause, and at the same time expanded his Jihad into attacking "Jews and their supporters" everywhere. He thus issued to himself an ideologically sympathetic license to hit anywhere he sees fit.

Since then, several al-Qaeda terror attacks gained dual-legitimization: from those hating the West, as well from as those hating Jews -- and even from some non-Islamic Arab groups, such as the Marxist and socialist Arab activists. This has been true whether of attacks on Israelis in Kenya, or plots to bomb synagogues in Chicago. The result has been tremendous media success for Ben Laden, who is now, to many Arabs, including many non-Islamists, "a savior of Palestine," and "a fighter against the evil Jews" -- and not a crazy bearded man.

This same concept has been expanded and executed shrewdly by several Arab governments. Jordan has been getting away with it for too long, and so have many Gulf States, who own most of Arab media networks.

Today, anti-Semitism is as necessary to several Arab regimes' survival as their brutal police forces and merciless security agencies known as "Mukhabrat."

Arab regimes playing this game do not realize that this time, their trick might cause them to disappear: political Islamism has picked up the message of anti-Semitism, which opens doors to all extremist possibilities and might cost these Arab dictators their rule if their oppressed public makes the transition from "hatred of Jews" to "love of Islamism and fundamentalism."

Meanwhile, the civilized world would do well to realize that its alliances with some oppressive Arab regimes should be re-examined and re-considered. The current regimes are not pro-Western, and obviously maintain a marriage of convince to the West; such an affair has proved very fragile, most recently in Tunisia.

Obviously, Arab regimes' recklessness and oppressiveness might end up destabilizing the entire Middle East region, only this time they are playing the very alarming game of "anti-Semitism."

Mudar Zahran is a Palestinian writer and academic from Jordan, who now resides in the UK as a political refugee.

GET IT???

Didn't think so, you naive Brownshirt dupe!

"Palestinian Pawns - Mudar Zahran

These open displays of animosity are of a piece with the Hashemite regime's use of its Palestinian citizens as pawns in its game of anti-Israel one-upmanship.

King Hussein—unlike his peace-loving image—made peace with Israel only because he could no longer afford to go to war against it. His son has been less shy about his hostility and is not reluctant to bloody Israel in a cost-effective manner. For example, on August 3, 2004, he went on al-Arabiya television and slandered the Palestinian Authority for "its willingness to give up more Palestinian land in exchange for peace with Israel."[24] He often unilaterally upped Palestinian demands on their behalf whenever the Palestinian Authority was about to make a concession, going as far as to threaten Israel with a war "unless all settlement activities cease."

http://www.meforum.org/3121/jordan-is-palestinian

This hostility toward Israel was also evident when, in 2008, Abdullah started revoking the citizenship of Jordanian Palestinians. By turning the Palestinian majority in Jordan into "stateless refugees" and aggressively pushing the so-called "right of return," the king hopes to strengthen his anti-Israel credentials with the increasingly Islamist Bedouins and to embarrass Jerusalem on the world stage. It is not inconceivable to envision a scenario where thousands of disenfranchised Palestinians find themselves stranded at the Israeli border, unable to enter or remain in Jordan. The international media—no friend of the Jewish state—would immediately jump into action, demonizing Israel and turning the scene into a fiasco meant to burden Jerusalem's conscience—and that of the West. The Hashemite regime would thereby come out triumphant, turning its own problem—being rejected and hated by the Palestinians—into Israel's problem.

http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3453/besieging-gaza

http://www.jewishpress.com/news/breaking-news/mudar-zahran-king-abdullah-will-be-toppled-in-2013/2012/06/24/0/?print

Or is Mudar risking his neck (literally. King Ass-For-A-Face Abdullah, the NON-PALESTINIAN Hashemite RULER of MUSLIM, EAST PALESTINE has put a PRICE on MUDAR'S HEAD. As a result Mudar is living in hiding in the UK) my partner in crime, bent on the extermination of his own people?

And that's just one of dozens like him. I'm only referencing HIM in particular because he's a personal friend.

GET IT YET???

Didn't think so.

Keep the hatred going, "Dingleberry". Keep the Palestinians suffering, all because you're one of the most arrogant yet EXQUISITELY GULLIBLE imbeciles on the planet.


Now either apologize and admit there's just a BIT more to the situation going on than you thought, that you now realize you're a gullible "useful idiot" at the "Anti-Israe/Who Gives a Crap about the Palestinians, so long as we can use them by convincing them and their imbecile "Dingleberry" idiot "supporters" (of their misery) to actually BELIEVE in the whole "Evil Zionist" manufactured fantasy (they actually receive universal health-care on the Israeli taxpayers' dime, are you by any chance an American? If so, and you can't afford Health Insurance, then YOUR OWN GOVERNMENT is oppressing you WORSE than Israel is oppressing Palestinians!!!)

Question now is, can you handle the truth, and in doing so HELP END Palestinian suffering, or do you insist on remaining an idiot patsy by continuing to PROLONG IT INDEFINITELY?

Sieg Heil, Herr DINGLEBERRY!

Who Is Really Besieging Gaza?
by Mudar Zahran
November 15, 2012 at 5:00 am
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Apart from the presumed public relations gains to be amassed by "sticking it to Israel," according to a 2011 report Washington Institute for Near East Policy, Hamas reaps over half a billion dollars a year from tariffs on the Egypt-Gaza tunnel trade. It is therefore in Hamas's best interest to keep the blockade idea alive, in order to secure larger revenues for its Gaza government, all the while demonizing Israel and causing Gaza's residents to suffer, thereby making them even more dependent on Hamas. advocating the genocide of his Get it yet

Thank-you for the extended response. I have no love for the dictators of the mid-east. I am not blind to the fact that they use Judah as a distraction from their own problems. But you have to admit that they are getting used by both sides. Judah is abusing the Palestinians at every turn. They are denied building their own homes. Have to go through numerous check-points that take hours just to go from one Palestinian Area to another, even when their is no Jewish areas in the middle. The wall Judah is building was built around their water supplies, often forcing them to drink dirty contaminated water to survive. Life on them is made to be so difficult that leaving seems a forced option. A friend of mine had his father thrown in prison by the Jewish government. They pulled out five of his fingers with a wrench as well as several of his teeth. This is just one of many stories I could tell. The Palestinian people are a good and wonderful people and I am quite fond of them. Their request for state-hood in the united nations brought me to tears. They are a people that just want to breath free. Judah will never provide them with freedom. Now if one wants to see how a people feel about their country one doesn't talk to the oppressor (Judah), you talk to the oppressee (the Palestinians). It is the Palestinian people who are being oppressed. As anyone know who just have the time to talk with them.

Actually the Arab news works are freer than those in the US. The US bans Arab and China networks as well as other networks in the US and Judah follows, but all American networks are in the middle east in addition to all of the Arab's enemies networks. Please don't take this the wrong way there are several things that you seem to absolutely believe that are just simply fabrications. I had to see the truth before I believed it. I was in the dark myself. It takes strength to realize that something you were always told is not true. I'm sorry my friend.

"But you have to admit that they are getting used by both sides."

How?

Through constant incursions into Gaza by Zionist "ambulances" filled with Zionist "doctor-commando-units" armed with razor shard "scalpels" in some truly sick campaign involving mutilating innocent Palestinian children in order to CUT INTO THEIR BODIES to "harvest" their burst appendices, thus delaying their death and ascendance to heaven?

Look: Gaza has effectively declared WAR on Israel.

When one nation unilaterally declares WAR upon another, (and indeed ACTS on it with the whole missile thing,) the nation it has declared war upon is acting within its FULL, COMPLETELY LEGITIMATE rights by taking what at peacetime would be considered undue precautions to protect the safety of its citizens.

WWII ended SIXTY SEVEN YEARS AGO, yet EVEN TODAY the US maintains the military presence in Germany that began in '45 when the Allies "illegally" invaded the sovereign state of Germany, "against international law".

I can't for the life of me imagine Israel having any rational interest or motive to abuse Palestinians. In fact, all it would do is work in favour of Israel's ENEMIES: That's precisely why they're making it all up! To make Israel look bad! And to turn world opinion AGAINST ISRAEL!

Why in hell's name would ISRAEL ITSELF want to join in that effort and help out in making ITSELF look bad?

It's insane!

LET THIS BE CLEAR:

Israel is IN NO WAY abusing Palestinian rights WHATSOEVER. It would simply make ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE to do so. Zionists aren't dummies, y'know. If we were, Israel would be history. If we ACTUALLY ABUSED Palestinians, all we'd accomplish would be to provide ammunition to our enemies.

GET IT???

I actually think this time you actually just MAT BE finally getting it! :)

I'll leave you with a couple of KEY paragraphs taken from

The Declaration of the Establishment of the State of Israel:

"WE APPEAL - in the very midst of the onslaught launched against us now for months - to the Arab inhabitants of the State of Israel to preserve peace and participate in the upbuilding of the State on the basis of full and equal citizenship and due representation in all its provisional and permanent institutions.

WE EXTEND our hand to all neighbouring states and their peoples in an offer of peace and good neighbourliness, and appeal to them to establish bonds of cooperation and mutual help with the sovereign Jewish people settled in its own land. The State of Israel is prepared to do its share in a common effort for the advancement of the entire Middle East."

And our hand remains, and shall FOREVER remain extended.

(Still think I'm some sort of Genocidal/Nazi/Bigot/Squash-For-Brains/Evil Zionist?) :-)

END THE SENSELESS BLOODSHED!!!
END THE SENSELESS PAIN AND SUFFERING!!!
END THE SENSELESS HATRED!!!

MOST OF ALL, PLEASE QUIT ADDING FUEL TO THE FIRE WITH YOUR ABSOLUTE AND COMPLETE MISUNDERSTANDING OF WHAT'S TRULY GOING ON HERE, MICHAEL!!!

L'Chaim

Lezer, the "Evil Zionist".

Shalom Aleichem/Salaam Aleykum

Absurd. Totally and completely absurd.

If Congress (or any other US government body) actually attempted anything like on any given morning, it would be struck down by SCOTUS as unconstiutional that very same afternoon.

"Please don't take this the wrong way there are several things that you seem to absolutely believe that are just simply fabrications."

You have no idea exactly who I am, who I know and work alongside, how personally involved, and how much I know about this whole thing, do you?

I bet if I revealed my real name you'd likely recognize it, and realize the level at which I so totally know my shit here. :)