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Is making sects, forbidden (HARAM) in Islam?
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Silent
003.103
YUSUFALI: And hold fast, all together, by the ROPE which Allah (stretches out for you), and be not divided among yourselves; and remember with gratitude Allah's favour on you; for ye were enemies and He joined your hearts in love, so that by His Grace, ye became brethren; and ye were on the brink of the pit of Fire, and He saved you from it. Thus doth Allah make His Signs clear to you: That ye may be guided.
PICKTHAL: And hold fast, all of you together, to the cable of Allah, and do not separate. And remember Allah's favour unto you: How ye were enemies and He made friendship between your hearts so that ye became as brothers by His grace; and (how) ye were upon the brink of an abyss of fire, and He did save you from it. Thus Allah maketh clear His revelations unto you, that haply ye may be guided,
SHAKIR: And hold fast by the covenant of Allah all together and be not disunited, and remember the favor of Allah on you when you were enemies, then He united your hearts so by His favor you became brethren; and you were on the brink of a pit of fire, then He saved you from it, thus does Allah make clear to you His communications that you may follow the right way.


006.159
YUSUFALI: As for those who DIVIDE their religion and break up into SECTS, thou hast no part in them in the least: their affair is with Allah: He will in the end tell them the truth of all that they did.
PICKTHAL: Lo! As for those who sunder their religion and become schismatics, no concern at all hast thou with them. Their case will go to Allah, Who then will tell them what they used to do.
SHAKIR: Surely they who divided their religion into parts and became sects, you have no concern with them; their affair is only with Allah, then He will inform them of what they did.
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NKingston
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This comes from my translation of the Qur'an.

Hypocrisy, Piety, Satan, Billboards (103-104)(*)
3:103 (1) They held tightly to a rope of Allāh together. (2) They did not discriminate. (3) Remember a blessing of Allāh upon you when you were enemies? (4) He then united your hearts [Lit.: He then joined between your hearts] (5) so that you were caused to greet with His blessing as brothers. (6) You were at a brink of excavations of the fire. (7) Then He delivered you from it. (8) Thus, Allāh made His sign obvious to you that perhaps you would be guided. 3:104 (1) Let a middle nation among you call out to the good and honorable (2) and forbid us from the atrocity. (3) They are the prosperous ones. (*)

واعتصموا بحبل الله جميعا ولا تفرقوا واذكروا نعمة الله عليكم إذ كنتم أعداء فألف بين قلوبكم فأصبحتم بنعمته إخونا وكنتم على شفا حفرة من النار فأنقذكم منها كذلك يبين الله لكم ءايته لعلكم تهتدون وَلْتَكُن منكم أمة يدعون إلى الخير ويأمرون بالمعروف وينهون عن المنكر وأولئك هم المفلحون

103. (1) Wa (i)’taṣimū [√’ṣm ifta’ilū, Perf. Act., 3rd. m. pl., Stem VIII] bi-ḥabli llāhi jamī’an (2) wa lā tafarraqū (3) wa (i)ṭkurū ni’mata llāhi ‘alay-kum iṭ kuntum a’dā’an (4) fa allafa [√alf fa’’ala, Perf. Act., Stem II] bayna qulūbi-kum (5) fa aṣbaḥ-tum [√ṣbḥ af’al, Perf. Act., Stem IV] bi-ni’mati-hi ixwānan (6) wa kun-tum ‘alā şafā ḥufratin mina n-nāri (7) fa anqaṭa-kum min-hā (8) ka-ṭālika yubayyinu llāhu la-kum āyāti-hi la’alla-kum tahtadūna 104. (1) Waltakun min-kum ummatun yad’ūna [√d’w yaf’alūna] ilā l-xayri waya’murūna bil-ma’rūfi (2) wa yanhaw-na [√nhw/nhy yaf’il] ‘ani l-munkari (3) wa ulā’ika humu l-mufliḥūna

SECTS ARE NOT OF ISLAM (159-163)(*)
6:159 (1) Indeed, those who divide their standards and who are sects, (1a) you are not among them [those who are waiting for Judgment Day, see verse 158] in anything. (2) Indeed, what is their matter/affair to Allāh? (3) Then He will tell them of what they used to engage in. (*)

إن الذين فرقوا دينهم وكانوا شيعا لست منهم في شيء إنما أمرهم إلى الله ثم ينبئهم بما كانوا يفعلون

159. (1) Inna llaṭīna farraqū dīna-hum wa kānū şiya’an [√şya, şi'ah n.f. (pl. şiya and aşya)] (1a) las-ta min-hum fī şay’in (2) inna-ma amru-hum [amrun (indef., n.), Umuur (n. pl.)] ilā Allāhi (3) thumma yunabbi’u-hum bimā kānū yaf’alūna

V. 159. This verse supports the very reason I have opted from the very beginning to not join or lean toward any of the sects of Islam that I have to date encountered. Since Allāh is not divided, how could His religion or as in this case His Standards be divided? Sects are anti-Qur‘ān, as we see from this verse, and therefore all sects of Islam are not of Allāh, but that does not, however, discredit the value of various schools of thought in Islam. Does that mean that Islam is not of Allāh then? Absolutely not! What it means is that true Islam is not divided into sects, and no sect whatsoever represents Islam in anyway, shape, or form. A Muslim is one who submits to Allāh alone and not to systems of sects that divide one another as well as justify wars against each other due to their differences in beliefs. Islam is a neutral zone nation in and of itself as far as the Qur’ān is concerned.

6:160 (1) Whoever came with the good things, then he will have ten like it. (2) Whoever came with the evil things, then he will not be compensated except with what is like such. (3) They will not be done injustice. 6:161 Say, “Indeed as for me, I am guided by my Developer (Lord) to established ways, established standards, Abraham’s religion, correct monotheism [Lit.: inclination or declination to one side or direction]. It is not of the polytheists. 6:162 Say, “Indeed, my prayer, my piety (act of worship), and my living (my life) belongs to Allāh, Developer (Lord) of the beings with knowledge (the Driving Force of Knowledge). 6: 163 He has no idols (associates), and with that I command you. I am the first of the submitters." (*)

مَن جَآءَ بِٱلۡحَسَنَةِ فَلَهُ ۥ عَشۡرُ أَمۡثَالِهَا‌ۖ وَمَن جَآءَ بِٱلسَّيِّئَةِ فَلَا يُجۡزَىٰٓ إِلَّا مِثۡلَهَا وَهُمۡ لَا يُظۡلَمُونَ (١٦٠) قُلۡ إِنَّنِى هَدَٮٰنِى رَبِّىٓ إِلَىٰ صِرَٲطٍ۬ مُّسۡتَقِيمٍ۬ دِينً۬ا قِيَمً۬ا مِّلَّةَ إِبۡرَٲهِيمَ حَنِيفً۬ا‌ۚ وَمَا كَانَ مِنَ ٱلۡمُشۡرِكِينَ (١٦١) قُلۡ إِنَّ صَلَاتِى وَنُسُكِى وَمَحۡيَاىَ وَمَمَاتِى لِلَّهِ رَبِّ ٱلۡعَـٰلَمِينَ (١٦٢) لَا شَرِيكَ لَهُ ۥ‌ۖ وَبِذَٲلِكَ أُمِرۡتُ وَأَنَا۟ أَوَّلُ ٱلۡمُسۡلِمِينَ (١٦٣)

160. (1) Man jāa bil-ḥasanati fa-la-hu ‘aşru amŧāli-hā (2) wa man jāa bis-sayyi’āti fa-lā yujzā illā mithla-hā (3) wa hum lā yužlamūna 161. Qul inna-nī hadānī rabbī ilā ṣirāţin mustaqīmin dīnan qiyaman millata ibrāhīma ḥanīfan wa mā kāna mina l-muşrikīna 162. Qul inna ṣalātī wa nusukī wa maḥyāya wa mamātī lillāhi rabbi l-‘ālamīna 163. Lā şarīka la-hu wa bi-ṭālika umir-tu [√amr fu’ila, 1st, m., sing., perf. pass.] wa anā awwalu l-muslimīna

Here's an interpretation of the previous three verses that I like that:

162.1-163.1 Say, ‘Indeed, my prayer, my rites of sacrifice, my living and my dying are for God, Lord of the worlds. No partner has He. And this I have been commanded and I am the first (among you) of the Muslims. (Al-Sheha, 1427 A.H./2006 A.D., page 37)
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Silent
Replied to:  This comes from my translation of the Qur'an. Hypocrisy, Piety,...
I'v found that Muslims today are trying to MASK their divisions by saying that we are from a different 'School Of Thoughts'...it's not a DIVISION/SECT/GROUP etc..

but..

When it comes to the REALITY ...we see BLOODSHED because of..what they call "School Of Thoughts'...obviously a sophisticated expression that VEILS the Truth!

Those who don't do such 'Jihaads'(Fighting with their OWN brothers...haha) ..restict themselves to FATWAH_GAMES to be on the safe side....

Some Leaders are trying to UNITE them...playing their roles..I must say..by palying with WORDS..to Sunnis they say.."SAY YA ALI" to Shia's "YA SAHABAH"...without up-rooting the main causes of contentions..or TURNING PURELY TO QURAN...

NK , you will never be able to understand what is happening on the other side of the world in the NAME OF ISLAM...you can't imagine it..because you and me are living in the socities where everyone is FREE and is not concerned to people's personal matters.

You said Islam in West is spreading leaps and bounds..because it's what we call the SPIRIT _OF _ISLAM....that enlightens a soul just like a flame,and passes on and on...like a candle to candle....

What do you say..?

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RE: Post that begins as follows.

I'v found that Muslims today are trying to MASK their divisions by saying that we are from a different 'School Of Thoughts'...it's not a DIVISION/SECT/GROUP etc..
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Silent said:
I'v found that Muslims today are trying to MASK their divisions by saying that we are from a different 'School Of Thoughts'...it's not a DIVISION/SECT/GROUP etc..

Response: I disagree. Having different perspectives in Islam, rather "schools of thought," is healthy and not abased in Islam, but when you utilize these perspectives to create divisions as we see with Sunnah, Shia, and so on, that is directly and emphatically opposed to in the Qur'an.

Silent said:
Those who don't do such Jihaads (Fighting with their OWN brothers...haha) ..restict themselves to FATWAH_GAMES to be on the safe side....

Response: I disagree emphatically here because Jihad apparently misunderstood by the parenthetic definition you provided. The Fatwah games you mention are nothing less than the mischief in the land that Allah promotes capitol punishment. It's treason again Allah, not jihad. The so-called Muslims are not being attacked. They are engaging in cold-blooded murder against innocent civilians - men, women, and CHILDREN! According to the Qur'an, those leaders of Muslim states should be executed.
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Silent
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Thanks for your response NK..want to make it clear..

1- I used the word Jihaad to 'point out their mistake' only .I do undertsand it's not Jihaad..thanks for correcting the impression of my post.

2-I think use of Hadith on behalf of what I said was insecure, so I'm deleting it.

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