Am continuously curious at the dimension of violence globally in the name of GOD. I do not think that the senseless waste of human life in any way please GOD. So something must be fundamentally wrong with this faith or the way it has always been propagated. It is difficult for me to understand how killing someone can constitute a persuasion to adopt such faith.
Muslims must find a way of reviewing the strategy of intimidation and senseless slaughter so as to save the same they wish to expand

You're absolutely right!
This is all happening beacuse Muslims are drifted away form the true teachings of ISLAM.
Historically such happenings took place in Christian history too.

Not everyone drinks tea, meaning that, although a minority of so-called radical or extreme Muslims do things in the name of Allah, Christians in America terrorize Muslims in the name of Jesus. When a Muslim defends himself/herself against either physical or verbal attacks, my experience has always been the same as any other Muslim in America: The Christian accuses the Muslim of persecuting them for Jesus' sake. If we want to put your post in context then, the Christian Crusade, known to Muslims across the globe as the Great Satan, has not ended, and the persecution of Muslims for Jesus' sake continues.

As for Muslims finding "a way of reviewing a strategy of intimidation and senseless slaughter..." the Qur'an is already clear about that. There is no strategy for intimidation and murder in Islam. It's forbidden. Self-defense - meaning that a person must be attacked or must not be the aggressor - is discussed at length in the Qur'an.

As a Muslim by definition, one follows or submits to Allah. If one does not submit to Allah as we find in the Qur'an and the Torah, how can they be called Muslims or how can they represent Islam? In America, because we are more literate than what is politically termed "radical Muslims," Islam is expanding on its own by leaps and bounds, and it will continue to grow until America becomes an Islamic Ummah (neutral nation). As people learn about Islam from the perspective of the Qur'an and historical facts, World Citizens across the globe are discovering that Islam in true form pursues peace, is not violent, is never represented by terrorism as Christians represent Christianity in America with, and forbids murder, suicide, and aggressive behavior except when manifestly threatened by their enemy.

What we call "radical Muslims" are not Islam nor do they represent Islam in any sense of the word Islam. However, because they use the Arabic name of God that is used by Jews, Christians, and Muslims alike in Arabic speaking countries, Christian Americans believe that anyone who does something in the name of Allah are Muslims. Because the Christian Terrorist Network in America wants to stomp out the ever growing Muslim population in the United States, whose civil rights are backed by the ACLU, the shrinking Christian population needs to attribute all their failed attacks against Muslims to terrorism committed by "radical Muslims" against America and fight against the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU).

In the sense of your post, it has already happened since the Qur'an came into being. In regard to the subject matter, "Islam at the middle of virtually all violent campaigns world wide," the statement is not true at all. Christians are at the heart of all violent campaigns worldwide. Because their attacks are primarily against Muslims, they blame those attacking back for all the violence worldwide. When the Christians learn to live in peace and to obey and apply the laws of the land they are in, then the global violence will be reduced significantly as far as true Muslims are concerned, but as regards "radical Muslims," that has nothing to do with true Islam. In that sense, we will continue to see global violence against The Great Satan, who are the Christians of America, not Muslims, not Islam, not anything represented in the Qur'an.

Its great shame that our rationalization of this global mayhem has unfortunately degenerated to Christian Muslim drift and not the priceless life of humanity daily expended by Muslims in the name of God. The dimension of this mind set is most unfortunate.

First and foremost, permit me ask WHO IS THIS ALLAH that you talk about he can not be the same peace giver, who staunchly says my PEACE I GIVE.The vehement defense of the insanity of those who maim and kill Innocent people cannot be working for GOD unless ALLAH represents a different entity. The very foundation of Islam is violent, the primary proponent of the faith conquered Arabia such violence was extended to Africa even before the advent of western civilization in Africa. Which one Muslim republic exhibits the kind of freedom experienced by Americans in their country. Take one trip to Sudan Chad even Somalia and you will better understand the fundamentals of Islam. How pretentious is the unfortunate impression that Islam is spreading because some common criminals come out of jail proclaiming Islam whata joke?

Question: First and foremost, permit me ask WHO IS THIS ALLAH that you talk about he can not be the same peace giver, who staunchly says my PEACE I GIVE.
Response: The Allah I speak of is the El of the Old Testament and the Allah of the Qur'an. I regret to admit that not everyone who claims to embrace one set of Scriptures follows suit, be that fact in the Christian religion, the Jewish (Abrahamic) Covenant, or the Muslim Faith. Granted, the El of the Torah that Jesus taught from did indeed seem like a viscious God, and the same holds true in the mistranslations and misinterpretations of the Qur'an and passages of the Qur'an translated correctly but taken out of context. Unfortunately, the New Testament has no legitimacy with regard to the Jesus of their gospels, so we face a network of hypocrisy, violence, radicalism, etc. in almost every religion I can think of, so I I see precisely where you are going with your question... Unfortunately, from the outside looking in, your inquiry is extremely valid.

Statement: The vehement defense of the insanity of those who maim and kill Innocent people cannot be working for GOD unless ALLAH represents a different entity.
Response: I agree. The Allah of the Qur'an, for example, teaches us to seek a means of finding peace rather than terrorize the hell out of people. Any literate Muslim will tell you the same thing. Unfortunately, you see in the media these radical terrorists who proclaim in the Arabic language their actions in the name of the God that Arabic speaking Christians, Jews, and Muslims alike call Allah. Because of the language of the Qur'an, when people hear the name Allah, it is associated with Islam when in fact it could be a Christian or a Jew doing something in the name of Allah as well. Then we see these same radicals in the media who are guilty of beheading their prisoners without following the precepts of the Qur'an that are extremely clear. In the Qur'an, submitters to Allah are called to teach their prisoners about submission to Allah and what submitters to Allah believe and are called to do. Whether they embrace Islam or not does not matter, so long as they are freed knowing whom they have called their enemy all this time. To behead your prisoners without justification from the Qur'an only says that the beheaders are just murderers who don't know their Qur'an and cannot be submitters if they refuse to submit, right?

Claim: The very foundation of Islam is violent...
Response: Quite the contrary. Islam without the Qur'an has that very potential, I totally agree, but Islam without the Qur'an is not Islam. If you ever investigate the Qur'an and read the tons of anti-Islam literature out there and take their resources in context, you can't help from KNOW that the very foundation of Islam is peace, and the anti-Islam promoters, the hatefilled terrorists, are boldface liars and knowingly spread falsehoods. I encourage you to investigate Islam for what it really is and come back to us and report back. You'll discover that your claim is INNOCENTLY in error, but still from outside the box you have genuine cause for concern.

Statement 1: ...the primary proponent of the faith conquered Arabia...
Statement 2: ... such violence was extended to Africa even before the advent of western civilization in Africa.
Question: Which one Muslim republic exhibits the kind of freedom experienced by Americans in their country. Take one trip to Sudan Chad even Somalia and you will better understand the fundamentals of Islam.
Response: I don't know so much about the facts you presented, but I do know the Qur'an and true Islam. Let's use the example of vegetarianism to parallel with Islam. A vegetarian does not eat meat, correct? If a vegetarian eats meat on a regular basis and says he is a vegetarian, then something is wrong with the claim, correct? Likewise, the submitter submits, correct? The words salām, Islam, and Muslim, all come from the same root, √slm. √slm means peace, trust, safety, and so on. "salām" is the fa'āl noun format of √slm, an indefinite noun, that has been translated to mean "peace, salvation, trust, etc." "Islam" is the if'al verb format of √slm, an imperative, that means the command to "Submit! Surrender! Be saved! Be trustworthy! Make peace! etc." "Muslim" is the muf'il participle format of √slm and means "one who is saved, one who is safe, one who submits, one who surrenders to peace, one who is a peacemaker, one who is trustworthy."

With all that being said, a Muslim who goes around violating the very laws that are prescribed by Allah in the Qur'an cannot fit the profile of what the Qur'an calls a Muslim in the faith of Islam because the primary goal in Islam for a Muslim is salām, and fighting against the guidance of Allah is by no means salām. This is why I encourage you to investigate your claims for what they really are and report back to us and tell us what you find. You'll then agree that whether your facts are true or not, your claims against Islam and Muslims are in fact in error. If I prove wrong in your investigation, I have no problem with your cross examinations. They are most welcome.

Question: How pretentious is the unfortunate impression that Islam is spreading because some common criminals come out of jail proclaiming Islam whata joke?
Response: If not for my responses to your statements, claims, and questions in this post so far, I would agree with you totally; however, the impression you have of Islam is the impression that led me to investigate Islam shortly after 911.

I was a Christian all my life in whatever form there was just about, and I suffered years - over a decade - of ostracization due to my inquiries about my Christian religion, rather my weakening faith in the atonement of Jesus Christ and the deification of Jesus Christ. You're reading the words of a former Christian minister, by the way, and I have not given a sermon at a pulpit since I embraced Islam. Meanwhile, I never knew what a Muslim really was - a race of people, a group of religious fanatics, a different form of monks...? Honestly, I did not know who these people were, but I grew up all my life having encountered many, many Muslims who were "always" models to society, especially when it came to academia at school (I did not do well in school until high school) and even very kind and peaceful people. They were examples of the peace that I now find in the Qur'an, whether those Muslims who disagree with me on Islamic doctrines like what I have to say or not.

My experience with Muslim individuals and their families was a direct contrast to what I was learning about them in the media immediately after 911. In my investigation of these terrorists called Muslims, as the media pointed them all to be, I had to find out for myself and apart from what was being claimed about my old friends and role models. How could these role models in my life be such horrible monsters? I gathered the facts of the media and compared them with the responses of many Muslim friends I made during my investigation. I discovered, to my surprise at that time, that the American media was predominantly biased with the Christian slant and goal of demoralizing a group of people who were actually innocent of their accusations, and they did this with outright lies that you are extremely impressed upon now (that is, if you have not done your homework yet). Don't think I do not know where you are coming from, brother. You are in the shoes of many innocent non-Muslims who know nothing about Islam, Muslims, and the Qur'an... obviously, and I admit that there are a lot of misguided Muslims out there when you consider how many members of the global Muslim population are members of so-called sects of Islam. According to the Qur'an, no such thing as a sect of Islam, but in the real world, there are people who claim to be that. Anyways...

To make a long story short, I found the answer to all my questions about Christianity in Islam. Islam put my questions in perspective with respect to the facts that I held as a Christian in search of truth. No one was quick to judge me surprisingly (that was a new one for me); no one sought to close their doors on me for presenting the facts that were before me; and as you see in many of my posts, I still treat statements, claims, responses, and questions just as I was trained to do in college and as I would hope all people who are at least somewhat educated were trained to do in school. As a Christian I was also taught the following from one of the six only genuine letters of Paul in the New Testament that has not been proven to be a forgery:
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21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.
1 Thess 5:21 (KJV)
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The Qur'an throughout tells us to do the same. Following this advice got me in trouble with just about every Christian minister or every member of Christian churches I attended all my life, but as I investigated Islam, I was encouraged to do what my Christian Scriptures taught us to do in above passage.

You know, brother, I'll tell you. In true Islam, I find peace of mind unlike I have ever found in my Christian days. Granted, due to traditions and illiteracy and misguidance, many Muslims like to argue about things that even they have no knowledge of. lmao. I'm still a student of Islam, and probably always will be until the day I day and even throughout my second childhood, but as with the reality of life, learning is an ongoing process. I encourage you to follow the advice from Paul that I cited above, and with your findings, just like the advice throughout the Qur'an, hang onto that which you know deep in your heart to be true. Don't worry about what anyone says, and don't take the quoting of the Qur'an by Muslims or non-Muslims for what you see, prove that that is what the Qur'an says. Don't take what the media says for what it says; prove that the claims made are true. What is not true, put them away where they belong, but what you discover to be true and good, make it your way of life... like mankind is commanded to do in the Qur'an. Doing what Allah wants us to do - that which is good and true - is submission (Islam), and to be saved (to become a Muslim) involves doing just that, submitting to Allah. Cheers, brother!

Nono

I think that it is not Islam at the center of these conflicts. The center is held by divisive and false beliefs systems. All those who believe in God and truly live as He intends are victimized by this.

God's Army is not christian exclusively and only foolish Christians think that is so, it is composed of those who believe and live by the word of God, no matter what religion (or lack thereof) they espouse

Dawn

I have deliberately resisted subjecting the very basis of the Islamic faith the Qur'an to scrutiny, to do so will completely denigrate the very substance of the Islamic faith. The Qur'an allocates to the Muslim the right to eliminate anyone who the Muslim perceives an infidel. The unfortunate impression of most Muslims is the assumption that non-muslims do not study the Qur'an. Some of us have laboured to carefully study the Qur'an, Hadith and Islamic history.
It is absolute falsehood, misinformation and manipulation of the truth to continue to posit that Islam professes peace.
The very fundamentalist are zealous protagonists of the very substance of the faith, Islam.
I consider it a very ridiculous excuse the consignment of the campaighn terror on extremism.
The true face of Islam is the face of terror.
The enlightened minds in Islam must sbject the faith to reform and reviewal, the continued defence of a criminal project to estaminate every one of contrary persuasion will be shortlived.
Muslims continue to arrogantly parade like they own the world whereas they costitute a minority of less than 25% of human population.
According to the prescription of the Hadith those who export terror and violence can at best only harvest terror and violence.

Your opinion is based upon what you read or observe in connection to what you see.

Don't forget that Quran was revealed on a nation which was 'barbaric'..wild savages...when Quran speaks of Kafiroon, the unbelievers it's the pagans it is/was addressing to...according to the situation at that time..

It does not address Christians and Jews, that way..as they are regarded as People of the Book..The Book of Allah.

Kindly keep in mind that the Law given to Moses was equally strict. If you like I'll provide you the reference.

Jesus came to FULFILL the same law.He didn't come to ALTER it...don't forget it either.He came to bring back the arrogants back to humanity...to the moderation.He was sent to the people who already were WARNED SEVERAL TIME and were TRAINED ALREADY...This difference is HUGE..and you can't ingnore it...

Judaism belongs to Jewish.

Christianity belongs to Christians, only, while both are supposed to be Islam.

Islam doesn't belong to Muslims, either.It is the religion of Allah. ..and Muslims don't want to understand it either.

They have become JEWS of this time...in their hope to possess the religion .while showing disobedience, continuously, cutting eachother's throats!!!!!!!!!!!

RE: post that began as follows.

I have deliberately resisted subjecting the very basis of the Islamic faith the Qur'an...
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femienofe said: The Qur'an allocates to the Muslim the right to eliminate anyone who the Muslim perceives an infidel.
Response: Kindly show us in context where the Qur'an does this. I will show you parameters that call for self-defense once you show that Islam calls Muslims to kill infidels. Remember almost every call to Muslims in the Qur'an is divided into three part: 1) a description of the situation; 2) the choices a person has; and 3) what is best for the believer to do. Don't be like the ignorant ones who take the Qur'an out of context by leaving out one or more of the three parts of the claim made based on the Qur'an.

femienofe said: The unfortunate impression of most Muslims is the assumption that non-muslims do not study the Qur'an. Some of us have laboured to carefully study the Qur'an, Hadith and Islamic history.
Response: Actually, the number of literate Muslims is growing as the result of literate Americans who are by leaps and bounds embracing Islam, predominantly among professionals like lawyers, doctors, and university professors. The problem with those who "claim" to have labored diligently to investigate the recitations of Allah is the fact that too many put unreliable hadith before the Qur'an. What is in ahadith is not reliable unless it is directly supported by the Qur'an. Unfortunately, the majority of those who make the claim of studying Qur'an, Ahadith, and Islamic history, based on my reading of what many these prominent writers have written on Islam, don't truly know their history of Islam, the Qur'an, Muhammad, and even ahadith accepted by various schools of thought. In fact, one scholar differs from another scholar many times over in the Oxford University study on Islam. That study is a great collection of investigations into the Qur'an and is for the most part quite reliable, but there are a lot of aspects of the many authors that are blatant lies, not intentionally, but due to unreliable resources and ignorance that the source provided is based on.

femienofe said: It is absolute falsehood, misinformation and manipulation of the truth to continue to posit that Islam professes peace.
Response: To make such a claim is a falsehood in and even of itself. It only goes to prove that you have not investigated Islam, much less the Qur'an. Come back to us on this when you have read the Qur'an so that you can justify such an ignorant claim.

femienofe said: The very fundamentalist are zealous protagonists of the very substance of the faith, Islam.
Response: I. Define "fundamentalist." II. Provide us with what the essence of what consists of "fundamental" Islam.
I will tell you this much, if you knew what you were talking about, you would definitely have a different conclusion.

femienofe said: I consider it a very ridiculous excuse the consignment of the campaighn terror on extremism.
Response: There is no need for apologetics for Islam. Like any other human being, Muslims may require apologetics for their individual actions, but one's individual choices does not represent Islam. Islam is represented in the laws of nature and as found in the Qur'an.

femienofe said: The true face of Islam is the face of terror.
Response: You got that right! The face of Islam is like the police officer is to the criminal guilty of just having committed a crime. Unlike Christians in America whom I believe ought to be placed in concentration camps like Christian America did to the Japanese during World War Two, Islam represents a neutral community/nation of peace, justice, and mercy in and of itself unlike Christian America who attacks Musliims and their families and their properties in the name of Jesus only because they are Muslim. That's the whole reason the Ku Klux Klan was formed. Christian America at its founding was so insecure that they felt a need to justify their domestic terrorism against blacks and anyone else the ignorantly believed would "polute" their religion. Now that Islam is growing by leaps and bounds in America, the terrorism by Christians in America is growing again except not against blacks as much as it is against Muslims, but Muslims have their backs across the globe unlike what black Americans had for centuries. Now we have a black President, the greatest U.S. President the U.S. has ever had. The difference between the persecution against the blacks and the persecution against the Muslims is the fact that Muslims have a global network that will fight the Christian terrorists of America. Not only that, we are not afraid to fight back and kill in self-defense. The problem and sad fact is that The Great Satan, Christian America, is not willing to settle for peace in the name of being persecuted for Jesus' sake. I for one have witnessed first hand how Muslims are physically and verbally persecuted, and unfortunately too many have discovered that I am not the type of enemy they want. They have to their benefit discovered that I am a peaceful, just, and merciful man, and will be there for them in time of need. In fact, every Muslim I know of in this valley I live in is deemed to be "good neighbors" that you do not want to mess with.

femienofe said: The enlightened minds in Islam must sbject the faith to reform and reviewal, the continued defence of a criminal project to estaminate every one of contrary persuasion will be shortlived.
Response: Islam is Islam. There is no apology due from Islam. Keep that straight, buddy. If there is any need for reform, review, continued defense of any type, and so on, it is the individual - Muslim or not - who needs to embrace Islam and to understand it for what the call means. In fact, my goal in life is to establish many Meccas here in America and to make America a Muslim nation because the U.S. Constitution is more in line with Islam than it is with Christianity. American Christians believe that they own America when they are trying to live above and beyond obedience to the law of the land due to the fact that in their mind "being saved" by the Blood of the Lamb means they only follow the laws of their God and the laws of the land, being lesser laws, no longer apply to them. Everyone is obliged to obey the laws of the land. Regardless of your religion, Islam calls mankind to obey the laws of nature, reduce oppression, and seek peace first. Where the laws of nature are disobeyed, naturally tyranny sets in, fear prevails, and discord becomes rampant. That is not Islam. Where oppression increases and exists, discord, lack of peace, crime increases, and trouble in the land transpires. That is not Islam. Where peace is threatened, domestic security is threatened, war is at hand, and no one - innocent and gulty alike - is safe. That is not Islam. The enlightened minds of Islam seek to obey the laws of nature that Allah has set in place as he did for every orbiting satellite in outer space and the most sub-atomic particle in every living thing on earth. The enlightened minds of Islam seek the very peace that comes with following the laws of nature that mankind is capable of going contrary to because of a thing called choice and which is the very reason mankind experiences so much unrest, but all other living things don't. They just act on instinct. The enlightened minds of Islam seek justice in all things and mercy for those who are oppressed, saddened, or without what they need to survive peaceful, meaningful, and happy lives. That is the face of Islam, and, to anyone seeking to fight the laws of nature that Allah has set in place, the face Islam by virtue of these laws of nature set forth by Allah that I mentioned does indeed look like a terrorist.

femienofe said: Muslims continue to arrogantly parade like they own the world whereas they costitute a minority of less than 25% of human population.
Response: Not true. Islam is growing regardless of how large it is where, and I promise you that in my life time, America will be a predominantly Muslim nation. As for the arrogance of Muslims, that's an individual fact, problem, or statement. Islam is Islam. Individuals are individuals. An individual who submits to Allah is a Muslim.

femienofe said: According to the prescription of the Hadith...
Response: Just like I said... Ignorant usage of ahadith. How do you plea?

femienofe said: ...those who export terror and violence can at best only harvest terror and violence.
Response: Show me in the Qur'an where exporting terror and violence is supported. Where there is a claim, to maintain a status fact it requires an equal value of evidence.

I look forward to your reply! :)

Nono

The inference that the reference was to savages whose only knowledge of GOD was idolatry does not ascribe to anybody the right to exterminate such people. Whatever faith that is founded on sound doctrine will seek to use persuasion rather than violence. That exactly is the point i have tried to make from inception that the very foundation of Islam is violent seeking to wipe out anyone the practitioners perceived in their opinion to be savage idolater. Wonder how and from what authority humans derive the right to determine who is savage and who is not, that must be arrogance in its worst form and nature.

The battles were fought in DEFENCE against who assaulted them. Fighting battles was their TRADITIONS. Actually they wanted to eradicate the OFFESIVE NEW FAITH OF ONE GOD, constituting a minority.

Muslims underwent cruelty and injustice for 10 years at Mecca and the Arabs didn't want them to SURVIVE in Medina, at all. They tried to sign the PEACE TREATIES but they voilated everytime. So Allah commanded them to fight against them, until they return to Allah only. It was for about 13 years, and when Mecca was conquered there was NO FIGHT at all. Muslims marched backhome, peacefully, praising the Almighty God and everyone was PARDONED without exception.

I don't see Muslims of that time fought battles outside Mecca and Medina. Did they?

How come Christians and others still make a MAJORITY of about 80 percent. If Muslims have been applying the same commandments AFTER those battles were fought ,there would have been no one else surviving except them or at leaast they must have made up a greater ratio than 1 in 5?

How would you justify the CRUSADES inthe name of a HUMBLE-BEING who never harmed anyone? What was the foundation of that VIOLAENCE?

I will soon be posting the commandments of Old Testament for you . You can compare the TWO VIOLENT DOCTRINES by yourself, then.

You need to think STRAIGHT to be JUST!

Response to: The inference that the reference was to savages whose only knowledge of GOD was idolatry does not ascribe...

A person who violates a law is a violator of that law. In Islam as well, if a person is a terrorist or commits tyrrany (tagut) in any degree whatsoever, then that person is not submitting to the laws of Allah. If everyone in the United States except one person were law-violating nomads, and that one person was the only one to obey the laws of the land, like Noah and his family members on the Ark, that one person is the only law abiding citizen. The law is the law. What people do is what people do. By definition, a submitter (Muslim) is one who submits (Islam) to the laws of Allah as found in the Qur'an and the laws that Allah has set in place in nature such as the orbit of the planets and the stars and all other satellites in outer- and innerspace.

Granted, just as with any other group in history, there are histories of violence and violations of humanity and human rights, but it does not make it right or representative of those they claim to represent. For example, how many Christian cult leaders represent Jesus Christ?