Part I

Surah Al-Zukharaf (Ornament)...(S.Ali quranbrowser.com)


43:43 So hold thou fast to that which has been revealed to thee; for thou art on the right path.

43:44 And, truly, this Qur'an is a source of eminence for thee and for thy people; and you will, surely, be questioned.

43:45 And ask those of Our Messengers whom WE sent before thee, `Did WE appoint any deities beside the Gracious God, to be worshiped ?'

43:46 And, indeed, WE sent Moses with Our Signs to Pharaoh and his chiefs and he said, `I am, truly, a Messenger of the Lord of the worlds.'

43:47 But when he came to them with Our Signs, lo ! they laughed at them.

43:48 And WE showed them no Sign but it was greater than its preceding sister Sign, and WE seized them with punishment, that they might turn to US.

43:49 And each time they said, `O thou sorcerer, pray for us to thy Lord, according to the promise HE made with thee that if HE avert this evil from us, then we will, surely, follow guidance.'

43:50 But when WE removed the punishment from them, behold ! they broke their pledge.

43:51 And Pharaoh made a proclamation among his people:`O my people ! does not the kingdom of Egypt belong to me and these streams flowing beneath me ? Do you not then see ?

43:52 `Nay, I am better than this despicable fellow who can scarcely express himself clearly.

43:53 `And why have not bracelets of gold bestowed on him, or angels accompanied him in serried ranks ?'

43:54 Thus did he make light of his people, and they obeyed him. Indeed, they were a wicked people.

43:55 So, when they exited Our anger, WE took vengeance upon them, and drowned them all.

43:56 And WE made them a precedent, and an example for the coming generations.

43:57 And when the son of Mary is mentioned as an example, lo ! thy people raise a clamour thereat;

43:58 And they say, `Are our gods better, or he ?' They mention not this to thee but for the sake of disputation. Nay, but they are a contentious people.

43:59 He was only Our servant, on whom WE bestowed Our favour, and WE made him an Example for the children of Israel.

43:60 And if WE so willed, WE could make from among you angels to be your successors in the earth.

43:61 But, verily, he was a sign of the Hour. So entertain no doubt about it, but follow me. This is the right path.

43:62 And let not Satan hinder you, he is to you an open enemy.

43:63 And when Jesus came with clear proofs, he said, `Truly, I have come to you with wisdom, and to make clear to you some of that about which you differ. So fear ALLAH and obey me.

43:64 `Verily, ALLAH - HE is my Lord and your Lord. So worship HIM. This is the right path.'

Assalaam o Alaikum.

First, I would like to remove the doubt again and make it clear to the readers that this Surah is about QURAN-THE TRUTH OF ITS TIME .....THE TRUTH OF ALL TIMES.

Kindly read the Above Ayaat again if you are not sure...

Also read the first few Ayaat of the Surah.

43:2 I swear by the Book that makes things clear:
43:3 Surely We have made it an Arabic Quran that you may understand.
43:4 And surely it is in the original of the Book with Us, truly elevated, full of wisdom.

I used the Sher Ali Translation above only because it goes well with the 'subject matter'...and flows nicely..but now I would like to compare it with the translation of Shakir to make it more clear...

Kindly read the following Ayaat too..

43:5 What! shall We then turn away the reminder from you altogether because you are an extravagant people?
43:6 And how many a prophet have We sent among the ancients.
43:7 And there came not to them a prophet but they mocked at him.
43:8 Then We destroyed those who were stronger than these in prowess, and the case of the ancients has gone before,
43:9 And if you should ask them, Who created the heavens and the earth? they would most certainly say: The Mighty, the Knowing One, has created them;
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Allah is telling Muhammad s.a.w that THIS QURAN IS A TRUTH....ITS THE SIGN OF HOUR.

43:43 Therefore hold fast to that which has been revealed to you; surely you are on the right path.

Now compare it to ....the DISPUTED AYAT..

43:61 And most surely 'it' is a knowledge of the hour, therefore have no doubt about it and follow me: this is the right path.

And again compare it with this also...

43:78 Certainly We have brought you the truth, but most of you are averse to the truth.

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On the whole,Allah wanted to remind Prophet Muhammad s.a.w..that don't you worry ,all the prophets had been ridiculed because of the message that THE CREATOR IS ALLAH ONLY...and all people have been ASSOCIATING GODS WITH ALLAH....nothing new......So trust Quran which Allah has given ..and don't worry...you're on the 'right path'..

43:86 And those whom they call upon besides Him have no authority for intercession, but he who bears witness of the truth and they know (him).
43:87 And if you should ask them who created them, they would certainly say: Allah. Whence are they then turned back?
43:88 Consider his cry: O my Lord! surely they are a people who do not believe.
43:89 So turn away from them and say, Peace, for they shall soon come to know.


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Conclusion:

1- All Prophets of Allah came with the SAME MESSAGE....THERE'S NO GOD BUT ALLAH!

2-They all were SIGNS/GIVEN SIGNS for THEIR TIME ONLY....THEIR "HOUR"

3- The SIGN OF MUHAMMAD'S TIME WAS QURAN ...FOR THAT HOUR and ....which is ALSO A SIGN OF ALL-TIMES...ALL HOURS...and not the 'Judgment day' ...only!


Note: All Muslims are FORCED to believe that Jesus a.s. will be the sign of hour ONLY BECAUSE...all Muslim leaders are preferring Hadith over Quran and they NEVER BOTHERED to UNDERSTAND the gross-meaning of this SURAH. Pity!

They are mis-using Ayat 43:61 without referring it to the CONTEXT.

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Reminder: I have already discussed that QURAN NEVER SAYS that JESUS WILL COME BEFORE JUDGMENT DAY/QAYAMAT..Kindly go through the Topic" Is the Muslim's belief of Second-coming-of-Jesus, against Quran"?

If All the rest of Ayaat in Quran PROVE , that He will not be here 'untill the Judgment day'..then definitely Quran canNOT CONTRADICT ITSELF....

Jesus a.s. will be here when ALL OTHER PROPHETS will ALSO be here...

[39:69] And the earth shall beam with the light of its Lord, and the Book shall be laid down, and the prophets and the witnesses shall be brought up, and judgment shall be given between them with justice, and they shall not be dealt with unjustly.

and

16:27 Then on the resurrection day He will bring them to disgrace and say: Where are the associates you gave Me, for whose sake you became hostile? Those who are given the knowledge will say: Surely the disgrace and the evil are this day upon the unbelievers:

If someone is still in DOUBT,..kindly read the Surah in your own Language..and make this comparison ..AGAIN...(Shakir)
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The Surah is ABOUT QURAN...(not Jesus)

The start of the Surah.

43:2 I swear by the Book that makes things clear:
43:3 Surely We have made it an Arabic Quran that you may understand.
43:4 And surely it is in the original of the Book with Us, truly elevated, full of wisdom.

Allah is telling Muhammad s.a.w that THIS QURAN IS A TRUTH...."ITS THE SIGN OF HOUR." (ACTUALLY SIGN OF ALL TIMES)

43:43 Therefore hold fast to that which has been revealed to you; surely you are on the right path.

Now compare it to ....the DISPUTED AYAT..

"43:61 And most surely it is a knowledge of the hour, therefore have no doubt about it and follow me: this is the right path."

And again compare it with this also...

43:78 Certainly We have brought you the truth, but most of you are averse to the truth.

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I have already invited some Muslim Scholars to give their opinions on my view-point!!!!

Part II

33:7] And remember We took from the prophets their covenant: As (We did) from thee: from Noah, Abraham, Moses, and Jesus the son of Mary: We took from them a solemn covenant:

[2:136] Say ye: "We believe in God, and the revelation given to us, and to Abraham, Isma'il, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and that given to Moses and Jesus, and that given to (all) prophets from their Lord: We make no difference between one and another of them: And we bow to God (in Islam)."

[42:13] The same religion has He established for you as that which He enjoined on Noah - the which We have sent by inspiration to thee - and that which We enjoined on Abraham, Moses, and Jesus: Namely, that ye should remain steadfast in religion, and make no divisions therein: to those who worship other things than God, hard is the (way) to which thou callest them. God chooses to Himself those whom He pleases, and guides to Himself those who turn (to Him).

[4:163] We have sent thee inspiration, as We sent it to Noah and the Messengers after him: we sent inspiration to Abraham, Isma'il, Isaac, Jacob and the Tribes, to Jesus, Job, Jonah, Aaron, and solomon, and to David We gave the Psalms.

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[2:253] Those apostles We endowed with gifts, some above others: To one of them God spoke; others He raised to degrees (of honour); to Jesus the son of Mary We gave clear (Signs), and strengthened him with the holy spirit. If God had so willed, succeeding generations would not have fought among each other, after clear (Signs) had come to them, but they (chose) to wrangle, some believing and others rejecting. If God had so willed, they would not have fought each other; but God Fulfilleth His plan.

[3:3] It is He Who sent down to thee (step by step), in truth, the Book, confirming what went before it; and He sent down the Law (of Moses) and the Gospel (of Jesus) before this, as a guide to mankind, and He sent down the criterion (of judgment between right and wrong).

[2:87] We gave Moses the Book and followed him up with a succession of apostles; We gave Jesus the son of Mary Clear (Signs) and strengthened him with the holy spirit. Is it that whenever there comes to you an apostle with what ye yourselves desire not, ye are puffed up with pride?- Some ye called impostors, and others ye slay!

[5:46] And in their footsteps We sent Jesus the son of Mary, confirming the Law that had come before him: We sent him the Gospel: therein was guidance and light, and confirmation of the Law that had come before him: a guidance and an admonition to those who fear God.

[57:27] Then, in their wake, We followed them up with (others of) Our apostles: We sent after them Jesus the son of Mary, and bestowed on him the Gospel; and We ordained in the hearts of those who followed him Compassion and Mercy. But the Monasticism which they invented for themselves, We did not prescribe for them: (We commanded) only the seeking for the Good Pleasure of God; but that they did not foster as they should have done. Yet We bestowed, on those among them who believed, their (due) reward, but many of them are rebellious transgressors.

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61:6] And remember, Jesus, the son of Mary, said: "O Children of Israel! I am the apostle of God (sent) to you, confirming the Law (which came) before me, and giving Glad Tidings of an Apostle to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmad." But when he came to them with Clear Signs, they said, "this is evident sorcery!"

[61:14] O ye who believe! Be ye helpers of God: As said Jesus the son of Mary to the Disciples, "Who will be my helpers to (the work of) God?" Said the disciples, "We are God's helpers!" then a portion of the Children of Israel believed, and a portion disbelieved: But We gave power to those who believed, against their enemies, and they became the ones that prevailed.


[3:52] When Jesus found Unbelief on their part He said: "Who will be My helpers to (the work of) God?" Said the disciples: "We are God's helpers: We believe in God, and do thou bear witness that we are Muslims.

Part III

5:116 And when Allah will say: O Isa son of Marium! did you say to men, Take me and my mother for two gods besides Allah he will say: Glory be to Thee, it did not befit me that I should say what I had no right to (say); if I had said it, Thou wouldst indeed have known it; Thou knowest what is in my mind, and I do not know what is in Thy mind, surely Thou art the great Knower of the unseen things.

5:117 I did not say to them aught save what Thou didst enjoin me with: That serve Allah, my Lord and your Lord, and I was a witness of them so long as I was among them, but when Thou didst cause me to die, Thou wert the watcher over them, and Thou art witness of all things.

Part IV

3:75

Christ the son of Mary was no more than a messenger; many were the messengers that passed away before him. His mother was a woman of truth. They had both to eat their (daily) food. See how Allah doth make His signs clear to them; yet see in what ways they are deluded away from the truth!

3:145

Muhammad is no more than a messenger: many Were the messenger that passed away before him. If he died or were slain, will ye then Turn back on your heels? If any did turn back on his heels, not the least harm will he do to Allah; but Allah (on the other hand) will swiftly reward those who (serve Him) with gratitude

Inferences:

Part I: Jesus a.s. will/should never come back, before the judgment day.Similarly,none of the Prophets had/will...

Part II: All Prophets of Allah were given the SAME RELIGION. There's nothing 'special' about what was given to Jesus a.s.

(except for the amendments in Sharia/Doctrine stages by stages)

Part III: Jesus a.s. never claimed that he or her mother were Gods.

Part IV: All Prophets of Allah had died the natural death.

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Wassalaam

Jesus is a figment of imagination, written about in a fictional 'book' called the bible. People have some much faith in him because let's face it- we don't want to think there is nothing after death.
I'm sorry to put a damper on your 'writtings', but to believe in something/ someone that we have never seen, never heard, haven't met is rubbish.
Would you believe me if I said I was a supermodel, flawless, perfect relationship, lots of money a huge house?? I wouldn't- so why believe someone who 'supposably' does all these wonderful things without proof?
Would you hand over your plasma tv or even your car without seeing proof that I had money to pay for them? NO?
Why not? You have so much faith that Jesus or god can do all these amazing things but where is the proof?

Jesus is not coming back- he wasn't even here in the first place and IF he was he was a regular man maytered by society then died....

One other thing- how can you have so much faith when there is so much suffering in the world? People are dying everyday, CHILDREN are starving, living in poverty, bad people get away with murder- there is no equality or justice?? Where does the faith come from!!!???

You sure do like to hear yourself talk

Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

To Rebecca-B

For centuries...Quran had been an open evidence..that there was a MAN OF GOD-CALLED JESUS (Peace be upon him) born of A MOST PIOUS VIRGIN-CALLED MARY (Peace be upon her).

He and his Mother were the SIGNS of their time, and will remain..till the end of this world.

Allah has promised the believers of Jesus a victory over the non-believers till the day of Judgment.

The only thing that differs is ..that he certainly was Highly Gifted Messenger of Allah, who died a natural death ..a death of honour.

He is not living an eternal life as no one else has ever been ....according to Quran..and will never be back again until the Judgment day, accoding to Quran.

Those who are having any disputes about him must believe in Quran, only.

There's no need for any prophet , without exceptions, to come back and prove himself.

Everyone who believe in Quran will believe in ALL THE PROPHETS through it, as the main objective of all prophets was to make HUMANS TO SUBMIT TO ALLAH'LAW.

The problems in this world are...only because HUMANS are NOT SUBMITTING TO GOD.

Allah says in Quran that ALL GOOD, comes because of Allah's mercy and ALL BAD is the PUNISHMENT of human transgressions, which returns back to them.

I did some looking....Islam is based on the teachings of a man who was a warrior

is it any wonder you reap the benefits of having a bloody sword to follow?

the worst parts of Christianity are the parts where people were killed in Christ's name, because of some 'unholy' thing they did or said or supported. This still goes on today. We call these kinds of Christians freaks and lunatics. They do not follow the teachings of Christ in any way shape or form.Jesus was a man of peace and love...turn the other cheek, love the enemy as thy neighbor...he washed the feet of a lesser man

yet, the entire Islamic faith is based on a man who shed blood. A powerful Islamic leader created a fountain of blood to remind his people of the holy fight they were engaged in.
more powerful leaders tell people to kill themselves and others in the Name of God.
when I look at this, I try to tell myself that there are good Muslims, good people, that these are the acts of brutal fiends masquerading as holy men
then I learn of the blood at the foundation of Islam
and I'm given pause

there is no such thing as a holy killer

Dawn

Hi Dawn

Every other day your true feelings keep coming to the surface....

You have been offending Muhammad s.a.w by calling him a 'holy cow' and a 'holy killer'....

This is just the HATE ..spilling out of a deluded mind which has been pretending to 'gather people under the LOVE of a GOD'..earlier..

You are taking for-granted that we Muslims cannot go against Jesus a.s...and you are trying to take full advantage of it...

Well as far as I can see you can take advantage of ANY given situation..

You have 'appeared' again ...with your JUDGMENTS...haha

Muhammad s.a.w was sent as a messenger to the REAL IGNORANTS...explore the History of Arabs ..yourself..this is all you know how to do ..very well..!

He and his companions conveyed the Message of PEACE AND SALVATION to those Idolators, who used to visit kabah ..first erected by Prophet Abrahim..for pilgrimage every year..with the loads of IDOLS..of wood and stone...

Early Muslims suffered a great deal of cruelty from those PAGANS...who never happened to see a Messenger before...

They left Mecca..on Allah's command..

In Medina..they kept living peacfully having signed 'Treaty of Peace'...which was voilated by the Meccans...They planned a war against believers...

Allah ordered them to fight in DEFENCE..

Later such wars were repeated because the Arab Warriors could not resist themselves, habitually..They didn't want to submit to JUST ONE GOD...

Allah helped the believers and many Meccans secretely accepted Islam.

Later Allah told Muhammad and his companions to return to Mecca , UN-ARMED...

They all came back praising Allah only..

All of the MECCANS were PARDONED, immediately.

Study the life of Muhammad too...He was the most modest person ..called Ameen and Saadiq Honest and the Truthful..till the age of 40 when Quran was revealed...

He was a humble Orphan, un-lettered...

People saw GOD through him..and believed..

In Muhammad's time Islam was already spreading..to the remote areas and other kingdoms..through the MESSAGES ONLY...NOT BY WAR ANYWHERE....

You are absolutely mistaken...

Jesus was sent to the ARROGANT PEOPLE to make them HUMBLE..

People who saw GOD in Jesus became Muslim..

It's all Allah's plan..dear Dawn..you are smart enough to understand it without being skeptical about it...

now about holy wars ..I feel you mean CRUSADES...it's something purely Christian my dear...

All people who have been spreading INJUSTICE IN THIS WORLD ..do not belong to ANY PROPHET AT ALL..

Quran says...

[5:32] On account of this, WE prescribed for the Children of Israel that whosoever killed a person - unless it be for killing a person or for creating disorder in the land - it shall be as if he killed all mankind; and whoso saved a life, it shall be as if he had saved the life of all mankind. And our Messengers came to them with clear Signs, Yet even after that, many of them commit excesses in the land.

It's a pity that Muslims have become like JEWS and CHRISTIANS..by meddling with Allah's Law..

like former, by POSSING ALLAH'S RELIGION ..on account of beliefs only..and practically becoming non-Muslims..by spreading INJUSTICE..and HATE..

Like later..By becoming PAGANS and creating Allah's associates...in different forms...and by finding ways out...for false salvation...while being stubborn SINNERS...

They are OFFENDING ALLAH and are being PUNISHED...

The TRUTH is always BITTER...!!!

Thanks

To Dawn and Mike..and all Christian readers..

And the swine, because it divideth the hoof, yet cheweth not the cud, it is unclean unto you: ye shall not eat of their flesh, nor touch their dead carcase." Deuteronomy 14:8

If Jesus came to confirm/fulfill the OLD TESTAMANT , Law of Moses..your 'survival kit'....Why do Christian eat PORK, then?

Was Jesus so humble and suppressed that he never warned you people about SINS..and being SINNER...

Did he allow you to become shameless,homosexual,and drunk..because he was about to die for your sins?????????????

What was HIS LAW?

Why do you want rights for committing SINS?

Why the WEST has taken the Religion of Jesus in its hands?

Around 1990's , when I was in University..I read an article in the "Reader's Digest"..it was like...

'Does West hate Religion...

..in it ..they discussed all kind of ANTI-RELIGIOUS MOVIES...They printed a picture showing Jesus drinking and enjoying with the nude women in a pub...on his 'second-coming'.....because he was very.... very very...vulnerable,humble and meek...haha

Can't you Christians figure out what ANTI-CHRIST should mean...?????????????????????????????

"I DO ANTICIPATE AN ANSWER"

Thanks

You are not posting here to have a conversation, you merely want to hear your self talk...or read your own words, whatever.

You want to shout down anyone who challenges or disagrees with you. You overwhelm anyone who TRIES to talk with you by posting multiple times to any single answering post. You make certain we all know that you went to a university and have studied the Koran and can quote it extensively.You are even a poet for your cause.

I think you are horrified that a mere woman with no formal education has the gall to converse with you, an educated man of faith, about things of this nature. You have more respect for Mike because at least he is a man. He can fling quotes around just like you can, but what happens when either of you stops flinging quotes from your holy books, stops praising dead men and lost pasts?

I have no answers for your questions because you are not interested in my answers. You are only interested in the fact that you can shout me down once I give them.

I reiterate, your savior was a warrior. Your faith is founded in blood. You cannot argue that being founded in blood is better than being founded in humility. Now you are trying to claim jesus as a way to interject peace and love into your beliefs. If that works for you, I say, excellent.
The blood will not lead you to God but perhaps the peace and love will.

Dawn

Lady...I feel you're here to POISON THE WELL...ONLY

I've been discussing and asking questions.

I 've started some topics ,not for you..for those who understand what I mean by them. I'm and have been inviting people/scholars to share/critisize...

I 've been facing a lot of Insult and I don't care...I'm whatever God has made me...but I can't tolerate non-sense against Allah/Muhammad/Islam when it reaches the threshold of tolerance for anyone who calls her/him self a Muslim....if others are quiet it's their own decision....everyone is 'free'...

Some Muslim tolerate when Non-Muslim make cartoons of our Prophet...they want political/diplomatic solutions...for Sex-Crimes...etc..and try to adjust it into the religion...In the name of progression.....I can't do it...

I've been equally firm to Mr. Mike..you're just lying to yourself...

and I don't want to talk to you anymore!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You always try to change the topic when you can't answer.

And

Enough, after your true face is being un-masked.

Thanks.

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Obviously you people can NEVER reach the MEANINGS of what I've been quoting from QURAN because 'all' you know is ...ENGLISH!

To those who've lost the respect of the discussion, now.

Your religion also seems to have a foundation laid upon THE BLOOD OF THE LAMB.

And

You want to ride the HUMILITY OF THE LAMB...without FEAR.....without REIN or REIGN.....

Well, I suppose you could always have me killed, isn't that what Islam does to those who speak against it?...isn't that kind of a rule? It would definitely shut me up.

God doesn't reign. He IS. You are coming at God from a base of fear and anger. You won't find Him waiting for you at the end of that road. Fear is the little death and anger is the mind killer.
At the end of the road of fear and anger lies Death, the great equalizer.
Whether or not you want to talk to me, I will keep talking. I am free, a child of God, and charged with the mission of talking and writing as these are my skills.
The more I talk to you about the truth, the shriller and more desperate you become. Such is the way of God. I bow before His wisdom and strength.

the concept of being a Lamb before God is a profound one for:
does not the Shepard protect the lamb,
guide the lamb,
keep the lamb warm on the coldest nights,
bring the lamb food when there is none; water when the well is dry and the river has changed its course,
treasure the lamb and,
when the lamb is at the end of its life,
does not the Shepard give thanks to the lamb for all it has given Him and all it has done for Him even while tending to the children of the lamb in the same way He has done for the lamb that now dies?
Does not the flesh of the lamb feed the children of the Shepard,
the wool of the lamb cloth His beloved,
the dung of the lamb fertilize His garden?
Does not the small quick feet of the lamb carve paths into the mountains that the Shepard walks?
Without the lamb, what would the Shepard be?
Without the Shepard, what becomes of the lamb?

Does the Shepard not love the lamb? Does the lamb not love the Shepard? Should the lamb not give praise and humility to the Shepard?

What does the warrior get from God besides a quick, clean death and perhaps a vision during prayers?

perhaps I am not intelligent enough to see your asked questions but I must confess, I do not. All I see is a belief system that is being shouted at me. I do not hear a man asking me what I think about it. I didn't hear you asking Mike about it. He has given up. I have not.
I truly am trying to understand you and what you are saying. I read your posts carefully, often many times. What I have come to understand from your words is that you are like the christian preachers shouting at their parishioners, not like Jesus, teaching and listening to questions.
From my point of view, you understand nothing about God.
perhaps I am wrong. I hope I am wrong.

Dawn

Dear Dawn...

Here I am...

See.. I'm NOT a preacher..I have no 'church' of my own...

I am a born seeker, a wanderer..and here I'm sharing what I have found....

My objective is to UNITE Muslim Hearts into one religion of God...because I've been experiencing a lot of Hatred in the Muslim Families and how it makes us stop loving eachother...

I've been discussing different religious issues at different forums . I found just one non-sectarian forum..but they were full of hate and prejudice against all the rest of Muslims...un-fortunately...

Then I found this forum...to have my say finally....

I avoided writing about My Religion at WN, just because I know Muslims are taken for-granted, these days..it's all our own fault because we have forgotten what Islam is ...but it's also because other people don't know what Islam is not...

I've already said I'll STOP after a few more things which I want to bring out of myself...and will certainly stop talking to myself automatically..haha

It's Islam forum and I have a right to post the related topics for discussions...if someone cares to discuss...

I know all these topics are quite boring...and I can't start..topics like gay marraiges,..etc...

You have your own approach , I've my own...

I don't want to convince you ..or force you to be convinced...so chill..

There is just ONE GOD and ONE RELIGION OF GOD and yes there is a religion...not a SYSTEM as you SEE IT....

The Religion of God helps us to see Truth , distinguished from the Falshood....

Jesus told the Truth to the people..He also WARNED ...and you can't DENY it...He had a MESSAGE...which you all have forgotten..and are taking JESUS FORGRANTED...

That's why West is sinking down in sins...yet they all shout JEEZ JEEZ...and GOD GOD...and LOVE LOVE...as it's FUN too....

I respect those who argue with evidence...not INSULT....

Enough of the insult for Muhammad...and Quran..you don't want to believe then don't...It won't change the Reality...either..

The rest is with Allah ..He is the judge ..He knows our hearts very well ...what we have in there and what we pretend...who is Muslim and who is not...

...just wanted to say one thing....it's really important..

4:48 Surely Allah does not forgive that anything should be associated with Him, and forgives what is besides that to whomsoever He pleases; and whoever associates anything with Allah, he devises indeed a great sin.

Take care...
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Anger, emotions..always have 'reasons' behind...