Yadi manushya janam hume 84 lakh ke karmo se chda sakta hai to sabhi jo niche mention kiye gaye hai, sabhi ka shukriya, kyoki sabhi hume is janam ke liye sahayak hai.

1. Mata or Pita
2. Surya devta
3. Chandra devta
4. Agni Devta
5. Jal Devta
6. Prthvi Mata
7. Kisan
8. Sainik
9. sarkar
10. Rishtedar
11. Every teacher


Agar mata pita hi na ho, bache ka janam ho hi nahi sakta, surya devta ke bina kya hamar jivan samhav ho pata.
Isi tarah , pani chahiye, aag chahiye, prithvi chahiye jis par ann ugega.

Yadi pehle dus or inke alawa or bhi hundreds of helps ka contribution mile to hum manushya jiven jine ke kabil ho sakenge.

Khali pet koi bhajan nahi ho sakta, is liye ek insan tabhi dharam ke raste par aage badega jab uska pet bhara hoga.

Upar likhe sahayako me se koi bhi sahayak yadi nahi hoga to hum jivan hi nahi jee payenge to moksh prapt karna to bahut hi dur ki baat hai. Is liye in sabhi sahayako ka bhi shukriya karo, jinke karan hum abhi tak jeevan jee sake or aage jee sakenge.

But hum in sab ko bhul jate hai or sirf ye sochte hai ki hume naam mile, hum meditation kare or humara agla janam na ho. Hum ye sochte hai ki ye guru hi kar sakte hai or hum uski sewa me lag jate hai, par kya humne socha ki parmatma to har jiv me hai to hum kisi bhi jiv ke sewa kare chahe vo sangat me ho ya ghar ke pados me, fal same rahega.

Yeh jo bhi baate hum is site par karte hai ki karmo ka bandhan hai, ye karna hai vo nahi karna hai, ye khana hai vo nahi khana hai, ye hum is liye karte hai, ki hum itna kama pa rahe hai ki normal life jee sake or humari jobs bhi normal hai.

Isko compare kare ki jo army ya other armed forces me hai jaha par vo aisi tough locations par located hai ki khana pahuch hi nahi sakta or vaha jo mile chahe vo koi bhi jaanvar ho par yadi zinda rehna hai to use khana hi padega. Kya un logo ke jivan bandhan is liye nahi katenge ki unhone apna karam jo ki desh ki raksha karna hai, vo sahi tarike se nibhaya hai. If he will not eat animal in non availability of veg food and dies himself, instead if has taken animal intake and lived long and saved our motherland from enemies, that was his duty.

Similarly jo baichare handicapped hai, poor hai jo ek din me 2 roti nahi kama pate, kya vo meditation kar payenge, vo to satsang me is liye jate hai ki unhe langar mil jaye, 2 achi bat sun le or guru ke darshan ho jaye taki shayad is se unki zindagi sawar jaye.

Is liye, har insaan ko apni duties n responsibities ko purn rup se nibhana hai, ye sochna or karna chahiye.
Parmatma jarur khush hoga ki hum uska simran kare, uska naam le, par vo or bhi jyada jhush hoga ki hum apni duties n resposibities ko ache tarike se nibhate hue uska simran har ke pal chahe vo sukh ya dukh ho kare.

You are absolutely right about this.
Here's a little excerpt from SGGS which signifies exactly what you said,

ਤਿਸੁ ਕਾਰਣਿ ਕੰਮੁ ਨ ਧੰਧਾ ਨਾਹੀ ਧੰਧੈ ਗਿਰਹੀ ਜੋਗੀ ॥੫॥
तिसु कारणि कमु न धंधा नाही धंधै गिरही जोगी ॥५॥
Ŧis kāraṇ kamm na ḏẖanḏẖā nāhī ḏẖanḏẖai girhī jogī. ||5||
He(Devotee) is not affected by actions, responsibilities and entanglements; in the entanglements of his household, he maintains the detachment of Yoga. ||5||

That is a true satsangi never runs away from his duties. In spite of doing his duties, he is also engaged in spiritual meditation.

Now let us take some examples when there is clash between or among two or more MARYADAS in one’s life struggle and how to make choices in such situations?-

1. One’s mother asks her son to spare Rs. 500/ for buying clothes for her, and wife asks for sparing Rs.400/ for buying shoes and one’s son wants Rs. 500/for buying wrist watch for him.

What should one do if he has only Rs.500/ to spare for any one of them?

2. One is going for SATSANG from Delhi to DERA when one’s Non-SATSANGI wife fell sick. Should one go to DERA as per his schedule even by taking wife along with him with spiritual faith that she would recover with the grace of BABAJI or one should cancel his visit to look after one’s wife?

3. Similarly should one wake up early to help one’s kids for going to school or keep morning time reserved for prescribed 150 minutes for daily meditation by forcing spouse to take care of kids?

4. What if one is required to work overtime in the office to balance one’s budget for family expenses or prefer to go for daily SATSANG at the nearby SATSANG center?

These are not hypothetical situations but are bound to exist in the young age of every human being who is to take care of one's carrier as also obligations of married life in addition to one’s duties towards old parents. These questions are more valid because no one can fix any targets for spiritual achievements in one’s life and the same can be postponed or covered in one’s routine life with lot of flexibility as per one’s family requirements/obligations.

"1. One’s mother asks her son to spare Rs. 500/ for buying clothes for her, and wife asks for sparing Rs.400/ for buying shoes and one’s son wants Rs. 500/for buying wrist watch for him.
What should one do if he has only Rs.500/ to spare for any one of them?"



==> Hmm. That's a weird question not related to sant mat. I don't claim to be solve personal problems but can try. Maybe in that situation he can talk to family members about this and wait for next month income, or if demand has to be made in quick time, he may borrow money from relatives or close friend.

"2. One is going for SATSANG from Delhi to DERA when one’s Non-SATSANGI wife fell sick. Should one go to DERA as per his schedule even by taking wife along with him with spiritual faith that she would recover with the grace of BABAJI or one should cancel his visit to look after one’s wife?"

==> Of course, that person must attend his moral duties first and take care of his wife. Satsang can be postponed until wife's health is normal.
Grace and effort go together. Without grace, effort would not be possible, and without effort there will be no grace. Dependence on grace only will make you lazy, and then effort would not be possible. God help those who help themselves.
By the way, for your information, there is Satsang dera in New Delhi also. Babaji come there too for satsang.

"3. Similarly should one wake up early to help one’s kids for going to school or keep morning time reserved for prescribed 150 minutes for daily meditation by forcing spouse to take care of kids? "

==> There is no hard and fast rule to do 2 and a half hours of meditation in one go. In fact it is not even palatable and become a pain. Not everyone can sit that long and persons who are just initiated and are not used to sitting, almost impossible for them. It is better if you divide your meditation time in installments and do them whenever you are free.
My usual meditation timings are 4 to 5:30 in morning and 7 to 8 in the evening or 10 to 11 in night.

Mind you, it was not easy for me to even sit for 15 minutes in meditation at a stretch. But i started with small duration and gradually increased my stamina.

"4. What if one is required to work overtime in the office to balance one’s budget for family expenses or prefer to go for daily SATSANG at the nearby SATSANG center? "

==> In spite of having tight schedule, if you divide your meditation time in two, three or even four installments, it will be more palatable and easy to manage.
Daily satsang? That's weird. I prefer to go for seva on weekends. By the way doing meditation for your guru is also seva.

Most of the above points are quite in agreement since full of logic and workable/adoptable. However these views, being personal, are full of a big BUT since SATSANGIS want such directions through GURU/BABAJI. Then how to get same, repeat same views through BABAJI to convince RSSB followers in USA who are suffering due to misgivings spread differently in SATSANG centers here and SATSANGIS have fears of wrath of BABAJI in case they don’t follow the ways brought out in above post in reality. Incase e-mail ID of BABAJI or his secretary is provided, then such views/clarifications can be sought from there, so as to address the misgivings among RSSB disciples at large.

I believe those instructions are well written in Sant Mat books.

@starspeed
i m satisfied with you but not much

I think both duties are important


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And about Guru Granth Sahib

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aap jis bhavana se shabad ko samchhenge aap ko vohi samachh aajaiga

Is main alag Class ki Padai hai sir

Aap Guru Granth Sahib Maharaj ko pura pade
agar time kam hai to aap Salok Mahala 9 ke salok pade


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aap ke sabhi douts clear ho jainge

hame sari duties nibhani hai sansarik etc but usi main naam bhi japna hai
as you know
Guru Nanak Sahab jab Bhai Lalo Ji Ko Mile tab unho ne bachan kiya ki
"Hath Kam Val te Surat Kartaar Val"

bus ehi sab hai

and bhai sahab
"Banda Muk Jaige --- Kam Nahi Mukne"



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