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CharlieMedina
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Great James. We must to stop socialism wherever it appears.

Send to me, please your email address.

Mine is ipanewsuk@eircom.net

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JamesDMcAllister
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Charlie,
I really must say that the opening topic of this blog is “Are Republicans out of their minds?” and some how this has wondered all over the place. I am neither Republican nor Democrat. I am a Republic Constitutionalists…neither political party in the country are doing anything that separates them from the looming socialist state. President Bush and President Clinton were both terrible Presidents with all their sneaky deals and war mongering. The Clinton administration tried early on to pass ‘National Health Service,’
but it miserably failed because at the time the public was not duped enough to fall for it.
President Obama not only followed the Socialist Path of the former two administrations but furthered the effort greatly by passing laws that not only gave the government total control over the health care system but the funding of all educational loans in the country as well…that, my friend is, is an enormous take over of public power.

The threat of the Socialist take over of the Republic is not new to this country. Socialist have been trying to gain political control of the United States since the mid 19th century…
“The roots of socialism in America can be traced to the arrival of German immigrants in the 1850s when Marxian socialist unions began, such as the National Typographic Union in 1852, United Hatters of 1856, and Iron Molders' Union of North America in 1859. Theodore H. White, author of Fire in the Ashes: Europe in Mid-Century (1953) wrote, "Socialism is the belief and the hope that by proper use of government power, men can be rescued from their helplessness in the wild cycling cruelty of depression and boom."
The Socialist Party in America was born and grew dramatically between 1900 and 1912. Under the charismatic leadership of Eugene V. Debs in 1912, 160 councilmen, 145 aldermen, one congressman, and 56 mayors, including Milwaukee, Wisconsin, Berkeley, California, and Schenectady, New York, were elected as Socialists. At the time, Socialists published 300 newspapers, including the Appeal of Reason, which was a Kansas-based publication with 700,000 subscribers. Membership in the Socialist Party totaled 125,000

“Creeping socialism,” an expression used in modern times to describe America's so-called drift towards a socialistic society, was coined by author F.A. Hayek in his book The Road to Serfdom. Published in 1944, Hayek's book warned of the dangers of state control over the means of production, which he perceived to be occurring, especially in regards to the Tennessee Valley Authority (TVA), during the New Deal and the Fair Deal administrations of presidents Franklin Roosevelt and Harry Truman, respectively.”
. During the Clinton administration, a plan was proposed to bring down the high costs of health insurance by creating national health insurance. Critics of the national health insurance concept labeled it “socialized medicine” and argued that the individual, not the federal government, had the wisdom and capability to manage his or her own affairs. They argued that deregulation of the health care industry and opening it up to the free market would bring the cost of health care down and increase the availability of care to the American public, which national health insurance would not do.

“Socialism will try to disguise a medical program as a humanitarian project…”
President Ronald Regan

I do recall reading about Dr. Salvador Allende and his narrow election to the Presidency in Chili. I remember more of this because the Nixon administration with the CIA was deeply involved in a coup to circumvent the inauguration of his presidency in 1970. It has also been proven that the CIA also tampered with the Allende regime on every occasion during the three years he was in office up to the coup d’etat by the Junta military backed by the US military and trained by CIA operatives. Some dispute the official suicide report and believe that Dr. Allende was in-fact assassinated. The CIA clearly had involvement.
The rise of the Junta under the dictatorship of Pinochet proved a far worse series of events for the Chilean people, as tens of thousands were rounded-up, tortured and murdered. Lists of the population that were targets of the Pinochet coup d’etat were provided to the General by the CIA.Who were worse? Dr. Allende the socialist dreamer or General Augusto Pinochet the mass murderer. I would even say that the CIA also has the blood of innocent Chilean people on their hands.

Socialism and Fascism always brings total government domination of the people and their deaths…regards to you my friend and know that there is nothing more I want for all people of all nations is to be able to live as free people that do not have to fear their governments…

James…
Purity2@gwi.net

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JamesDMcAllister
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Dear friend, Charlie,
I do apologies if I tend to be long winded and I wanted to touch on a point in the last blog you sent me.

The Police State is already set up in the United States. The grid is in place and the evidence is overwhelming...it is here, my friend. The United States ranks #6 in all the world. These are just a few of the areas that law enforcement use daily to monitor American citizens...

Daily Documents:
Requirement of state-issued identity documents and
registration.

Border Issues:
Inspections at borders, searching computers, demanding decryption of data. Border inspection officers allowed one hundred miles inland to search civilians.

Financial Tracking:
State’s ability to search and record all financial
transactions: Checks, credit card use,
wires, etc. with out warrants.

Gag Orders:
Criminal penalties if you tell someone the state is searching their records.

Anti-Crypto Laws:
Outlawing or restricting cryptography.

Constitutional Protection:
A lack of constitutional protections for the individual, or the overriding of such protections.

Data Storage Ability:
The ability of the state to store the data they gather on any one at any time.

Data Search Ability:
The ability to search the data they gather.

ISP Data Retention:
States forcing Internet Service Providers to save detailed records of all their customers’
Internet usage.

Telephone Data Retention:
States forcing telephone companies to record and save records of all their customers’
telephone usage.

Cell Phone Records:
States forcing cellular telephone companies to record and save records of all their
customers’ usage.

Medical records:
States demanding records from all medical service providers and retaining the same.

Enforcement Ability:
The state’s ability to use overwhelming force (exemplified by SWAT Teams) to seize
anyone they want, whenever they want.

Habeus Corpus:
Lack of habeus corpus – the right not to be held in jail without prompt due process. Or,
the overriding of such protections.

Police-Intel Barrier:
The lack of a barrier between police organizations and intelligence organizations. Or, the
overriding of such barriers. Federal police agents are training local law enforcement.

Covert Hacking:
State operatives removing – or adding! – digital evidence to/from private computers
covertly. Covert hacking can make anyone appear as any kind of criminal desired.

Loose Warrants:
Warrants issued without careful examination of police statements and other justifications
by a truly independent judge.

This is permitted under the laws enacted by the Patriot Act and enforced by the Department of Homeland security and as many as 27 other policing agencies not including the local policing authority...the police state is here!!

James...
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lehmann520
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Not too mention the current panty raid disguised as a census...

where do you want these two pennies...

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JamesDMcAllister
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Well, you were the lucky one...the census worker that come to my house brought a damn proctologist along...they needed to get all the way up in there and make sure I wasn't hiding one of those damn census dodgers...of course, being the good sheeple that I am, I immediately complied especially after an IRS and TSA agent showed up to make sure I had Obamacare and to get my dose of radiation...not to mention the Homeland Security agent that jumped out of my closet to double check that I was in compliance with all the other shit bags that were already their...etc. etc. etc. pennies, oh yes, in the waste basket, that is where all the other money goes any ways...
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CharlieMedina
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I am very impressed James. I have saved your last two valuable comments to research and confirm its contents.

I have my self have some experience of fascist-socialist manners recently at Sanford airport in january.

Please, let me know more concerning State socialist´ attempts, or Polis state manner. If others guys reading this message, know more, please give it to me reporting

Date, time, where, who, what, and all other details.
Name of reporter could be published by me, or not, if the reporter do not want it.

I will start an English section of my web site
www.ipaebooks.org soon.

Thanks.

To your email I will send a PDF version of my THE SOCIALISMS.

(Publishing house will pay for your translation, when they decided to get it out in any form.)

Regards

Charlie
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JamesDMcAllister
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This I will look forward to reading with great earnest! The web site...Towards a Theory Rationalist-The Micro and Macro-economics...seems pretty serious to me...google automatically translates to English for me...would have been easier to post this web sight immediately when you started this stream and the doubt about who and what you are would not have been an issue Professor...you realize how many people claim to be one thing or the other and it turns out to be false?
I am so glad that we cleared this up!
See, we will put our minds together and work out any difficulty...just like I can tell you I am a pianist and you will believe me...
With great respect and opologigies
James...
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lehmann520
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Now I really love you...BTW...all I put down on the census was how many people live in this household...the census workers haven't been here yet. I don't plan to let them in.
if the cops come I'm going to invoke my right to remain silent. I'm going to refuse to pay any fines levied.

I may go to jail for a while...watch for me on the news!

thinkers of the world UNTIE the systems that holds you back! hehehehe

hey Charlie,

here's some socialism in the US for ya...

new healthcare law orders healthy people who don't currently have insurance (usually young people)to get insurance or be fined, perhaps detained by the new enforcement division of the IRS (internal revenue service)which is overseeing the implementation of the law

the new law says that individual physicians treating private payer insurance patients must report the patients problem and proposed treatment to the new enforcement division so the feds can decide if the treatment is worth paying for, even if they aren't the ones paying. The feds have the right, under the new law, to tell the private pay insurance company whether they can or cannot pay for the proposed treatment plan. If they tell the insurance company they cannot pay, the individual must come up with the money or choose to suffer, perhaps die.

the federal government via the IRS is ordering states to raise taxes on ALL the residents of the state to pay for some of the residents of states. It is calling healthcare a form of commerce, NOT a right and telling individuals that they MUST consume whether they are sick or not.

furthermore, this new law cuts the care level and financial help of the systems already in place that were taking care of our elderly and sick. The federal gov. will now decided what care is to be given and paid for for our senior citizens.

this new law has provisions in it that will allow the enforcement of 'health laws' that tax 'bad' behavior like alcohol consumption, fatty food consumption, tanning bed usage, and other things. The law claims that such behavior is unhealthy and should be regulated and taxed so that future illness is already paid for when people get sick from this behavior.
in other words, if I smoke, I pay a tax which is supposed to go toward my future health problems but this will not be enough so James will be required to pay for the balance of my care but the gov't decides what care I can receive. The state will bill James for the best care it is POSSIBLE to receive while I get the cheapest care it is possible to receive.
I
will likely die and James will probably go broke paying for something I didn't get. The extra care he pays for will go toward the care of another smoker who will also recieve the least amount of care possible and probably die as well. James will still be broke and when he finally grows old and gets sick, some one else will go broke paying for the best care possible that he doesn't receive.

do you see the problem here?

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JamesDMcAllister
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Yeah!!!!! I will have to get a dump truck to haul all the purple jelly beans!!!!! ::::grinning from sea to shining sea:::

Imagine this, if the
Federal Department of Health-care can punish you for not buying their policy they can also punish you for not excepting a procedure that they deem necessary for you to have...i.e. sterilization or a frontal lobotomy...either way, you are screwed coming and going...damned if you do and damned if you do not!! Why sow a finger back on when it is cheaper to just throw the thing in the trash? Why set a badly broken ankle when it will be cheaper to just cut the damn thing off? Right?

Google...'man dies in emergency room after waiting 36 hours for care'...this guy was a double amputee and they let him die in the waiting room...Canada's fine National health care, eh?

Hope grandma don't get sick, she will have to appear before a 'death panel'...:::that is just so wrong...Obama's moral compass is so screwed up it is a wonder that he can find the bathroom!...

Now I will answer Charlie's question...
Are the Republicans out of their mind?
You bet they are and so are the Democrats!

James...
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lehmann520
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Er...

::::looking at pile of purple jelly beans::::

which union made these? Is that why they're purple? are they magic? can I plant them and escape to the land of the golden goose? what happens when you add water to union made purple jelly beans?

sorry, just ate a whole chocolate easter bunny...I'm a wee bit, hyper

ROFLMFAO

can we have red jelly beans instead? the 'red pill' in the matrix was so cool...let's have red jelly beans!

BTW...does anyone know what the word 'barak' means in Arabic or any other language?

Happy Easter everyone!
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CharlieMedina
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Apologizes accepted.
My texts are arriving soon.

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CharlieMedina
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My point asking if Republicans are out of their mind is clearly a message to my Republican friends on the top. (Please, send the most important parts if this debate to your congressman.)

I am intending to tell them, "Do not be propitiatory bocks in an ideological fight Republicans will loose in a long run, because the political economical development of USA demands uncomfortable measures, whether you wanted it or not."

"The point is to make politics using your brain, meaning, never been scatologicals, never emotionals, never retrogrades, never racists, never defending fat cats. Your point is to defending middleclass."

On the some side, it is true that an American Health reform will create a Health police, as in Sweden. They read your post, tap your telephone, travel to vacations places to film people declared sick (because the Swedish system demands you asking for permition from byrocrats, if you wanted to take holidays, when registered as a sick person.)

Swedish "Försäkringskassan" is an authority (likely Gestapo) with out any external auditing. Without any other authority over them. And, they punish you denying your right to insurance compensation, even if you and your employer have paid your quotes in time! Only The Parliament is able to change their methods!

I am sure, American people shouldn’t be happy by that, but, it is true that 35 millions residents have a lack of medical attentions. IF outclassed illegal workers, and other riff-raff people want to be prisoners of the State Health reform, WANDERFUL! That way The State will have knowledge on these groups, were they living, what they doing. Any clue.

Regards from Charlie
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lehmann520
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Hi Charlie,
Happy Easter..He has risen!

I understand what you are saying about wanting to take care of the thirty five million or so that are, or were, uninsured, how ever, I would like to point out, and I guess this IS NOT common knowledge around the world:

we had universal healthcare for ANYONE who went into an emergency room and asked for treatment. It was illegal for any institution to deny care to a person who needed it regardless of their ability or inability to pay. The homeless man got the same care as the richest man in the emergency room.
If there was an accident on the street and an ambulance was called, they had to take the non payer as well as the payer and both received all the care necessary to save their lives.

now, I realize that this form of universal healthcare doesn't include preventative medicine for homeless people, nor does it allow for non payers to receive organ transplants or free prescriptions if they don't have an address but, if people wanted that, all they had to do was get a job, get an address and apply for medicare/medicaid/social security disability!

the welfare system we had set up paid for housing, medical care, prescriptions, clothing, education/job training, food, it even gave you extra money that you could spend on transportation or entertainment....most people on welfare have at least one tv often two AND cable or satellite connections.

I don't know where you live, but being poor in America is NOT the same as being poor anywhere else.

Americans who don't travel have NO CLUE what real poverty actually looks like!

Charlie, I have told you, I am considered poor in the American system. Let me tell you how I live.

I have a three bedroom apartment totaling 1100 square feet with hardwood floors, central heating, and all mod cons except centralized air (I have window air conditioners, this is seen, by my friends as a hard ship!)
I have a 46" flat screen tv, cable, dvr, cable internet hook up. My family owns two lap tops and one desk top computer
My son has an Xbox360 and online account.
I drive a 2003model car that is paid off and in great shape. My daughter has her own car, it is newer than mine.

We eat delivered pizza about once a week at 38-45 $ a pop.
We all have shoes and clothing suitable for our ages, and the local environment.

we give each other gifts at Christmas, Easter, birthdays and other holidays.

The only thing I don't get is vacations to tropical climates.

I AM POOR and I live this way WITHOUT government help!

those on assistance live BETTER than this.
Don't believe what the media tells you about poverty and medical tragedy in this country. They lie for their own purposes. The new law will actually mean I can no longer afford to live the way I do in part because I will now be taxed to pay for healthcare for other 'poor' people.

Charlie, if I wasn't paying taxes, I could go on vacation, may be even own a home...and I would STILL be poor!

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JamesDMcAllister
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Hey poor girl...send me your e-mail address...it sucks to be poor but at least you can have a little comfort knowing that you are totally not alone...
purity2@gwi.net

want to send you some of my music and pictures of my clan...
James...
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JamesDMcAllister
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You ask too much of me!!!
red jelly beans are reserved for only the affluent and arrogant asses...you'll find the mother load of red jellies in Washington DC...how about green?
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JamesDMcAllister
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Professor,

It has past the point to reason with these men...they receive
hundreds of e-mails daily and probably more and they do not listen...it is time for the American people to come out in a "voting" force of the likes that has never been seen and tear away the power of tyranny that these men are drunk on!!!! The police state is here, professor, and fascism is but a breath away!!

James...
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andrew99
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Yes, your are right. But if I read between the lines, I think the Health Care Insurance companies realized they would have 40 Million more customers. The Republicans that represent them are going to do a 180 degree turn. One of them (don't remember his name0 has started pointing out those parts of the bill that agree with Republican doctrine and that they were the ones that put it in there.

regards,
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lehmann520
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Green is too...IPPCCC or what ever the initials of THAT group of fools are...

hmmm...how about orange....it's one of the colors of dawn...those are good colors, you know

orange, yellow, salmon pink, turquoise, light blue, shades of amethyst...even that burning clearness as the sun shimmers up out of the world..sort of a flash, you know what I mean?

I vote for orange...we have chemicals to make orange...do we not?

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JamesDMcAllister
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Well, you could use 'agent' orange but that did not work out to well...I refer you to the e-mail I sent you for clarification...
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lehmann520
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Yeah, forms, SHEESH

okay...yellow...how about yellow

or are you man enough to go with pink?

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What's your problem with Irish, Scottish and English??? I can't see what those races have to do with Naziism. Other than their color. That would make you a racist, wouldn't it? If you remember correctly, it was the German race who were Nazis. The melting pot that was America...Irish, English, Scottish, Hispanic and African fought AGAINST Nazi Germany. I agree that there are Nazis in this country, there are KKK members, but what does that have to do with anything that you are talking about???? I am an American who is from Irish, German, English, French, Scottish and Native American descent and I think hate groups are comprised of ignorant, fearful, close-minded people who still think the civil war is going on. None of that has anything to do with the fact that some people in this country believe that the government does not need to interfere with every aspect of our lives. We need to rule what happens with our government, we don't need the goverment dictating what we do with our money. Of course there are those who have more and those who have less. It's always been that way and always will be. I live in the South, descendant of English-Irish and I'm not trembling in fear because money is short. If it gets too short, I can get my butt up and work more. And earn more.
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CharlieMedina
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I do not have own problems with Irish clever or logic people. We Hispanics, just do have problems with Irish, English, Scottish, Swedish, Germans, Americans and other racists.

I do understand you have studied your secondary schools books and that ignore Nazism (the nationalistic socialism) started in Sweden "thanks" thinkers as Rudolf Kjellen who was professor at Uppsala and Berlin universities. Under 20s he taught German protonazis on Geopolitics, "the right of white race to rule and preserve". That was the origins of Hitler´s genocide programs which included elimination of all other races, which should continue on Spanish (spanish "capos" in concentration camps believed they should survive, because they had a feeling of being whites!) But not, they were killed in gas chambers as well.

And, I recommend you not to be innocent minded, believing what it is in school books, as they have been strongly manipulated by school politics.

Good for you to know. A small part of Irish, English, Scottish, German, English, French, Scottish, Native & Anglo Saxons, Latin & African American fought AGAINST Nazi Germany.

Our daily problem, meaning Black and halvbrothers Latinos is the stupid racism we are suffering in Europe. Spiting idiots in Ireland, Sweden and Germany. The lack of opportunities for Blank and Latinos in Spain, France, Italy, UK, and Scandinavia. Open discrimination on us in Sweden, State department never look after. Even Polish idiots spit us!

BECAUSE, a great war is on us from Islam, and we have to give them a lesson, it is important for non racist people realize this situation and everyone give a huge to your Black and Latino neighbor, servant, or provider of any service. (Even a poor Latino whore deserves a sincere one).






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lamplighter
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BECAUSE, a great war is on us from Islam, and we have to give them a lesson, it is important for non racist people realize this situation and everyone give a huge to your Black and Latino neighbor, servant, or provider of any service. (Even a poor Latino whore deserves a sincere one).

Could you explain the paragraph above? I don't understand what should people give to the Black and Latino neighbor?
Anyway, I agree that our history books are far from correct. I learned this from Native American friends online and books my dad gave me concerning the massacres and slaughters that were never put in our books. The breaking of treaties, the lies, the murder, the rapes. By our soldiers. It's appalling. So, if I had children now, I would teach them at home and I would teach them correctly. I will teach my grandchildren the truth about what the Blacks went through.
Yes, we are at war with the Muslims because they think that Americans are infidels. And it is their job to wipe us off the earth. I think our government needs to take drastic steps to protect our lives and our rights. This is a free country, so far, and we can worship as we like. I will not stop worshipping my God who made us all, all colors and races and I know that this is an outdated belief system when it comes to scientists and other highly educated people but all that does is reminds me of the statement made in the Bible "Much learning has made you made" or crazy as was meant in the context of the statement. When we get so smart that we think we are above God, there's not much hope for us. Only God can save us now, through prayers. George Bush was goofy, I agree, but he did believe in God. So did most other presidents before Obama. When he made the statement "America is no longer a Christian nation. We are a Buddhist, Muslim, etc etc"
Our country is gone if God does not save her.
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CharlieMedina
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I meant, be nice to Latinos, Black Americans, Asians, Jewish and everyone, except nazis, communists, socialists of all kind, and racists in general.

I am very happy to read messages from very Christian people, as I am. I remember once visiting Dublin, Ireland. A protestant man from Belfast was preaching on street insulting Catholics. We Catholics are not more than human been, but Protestants want us a saints. If we were! Are they?

I started a dialog with that protestant talking him “we Christian only have as our enemy extremist Muslims”. That man did not agreed. I said, “remember this, they are going to attack us, because they say we are deserving this kind of treatment “ So happened 11/9, New York days after.

I am sure pacific Muslim should disagree with me when accusing Islam of an already started war against us Christians. They surely will argue that “Islamic extremism is because the Crusades” They are twisting historical facts.

Islam started wars against Christians year 615, when they invaded Iran, Persia. Later invaded India and forced Hindi people to convert into Islam or die. Then, Muslims invaded Africa and established slavery, which was their main business. I do not understand how can be possible African people who are Muslims, because Muslims destroyed their economical and social development. It is historical facts.

Omayyad Muslim dynasty invaded North Africa year 696 and Spain year 711. They were stopped in France and Spain and expulsed from Europe year 1492. But, they want to live in Europe forcing people to be Muslims. During Otoman empire, Turkish Muslims invaded Europe again, up to Poland and Austria. They were stopped at Lepanto sea battle by allied Christian forces. Five times Muslims have attacked Europe and The Crusades were nothing than a reactions to give them a lesson.

Who is saying untrue information? Check up on history books.

I agree with American Christians of all mixed races (in fact, races’ mixing started when Homo sapiens intercoursed with Cromagnons and Neanderthales 10,000 years ago!), that a Christian self defence organization have to be created, as our Army should not be enough strong to stop an Islamic invasion, but acting under military rules, control and command. Everything else is illegal, no acceptable under the rules of war. If Muslims understand we are firm decided to defend our selves, wonderful!.

What is your opinion? For direct enquiring, write to ipanews@eircom.net




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Hey guys!

neat argument but you are all off the point.

look, this is NOT about Islam or any other religion. If you think it is, you're buying the lie.

WAKE UP!

THE ENEMY IS COMMUNISM and specifically CHINA!!!!!!!!!

China is that last bastion of godless-ness on earth...this is the war....THE WAR that will end all wars, all struggles, for thousands of years, if you believe Revelation and prophecy.

IT IS CHINA who is the great LIAR of the Christian bible. Obama is nothing...in fact, he maybe a sacrificial lamb, a man who is being duped into destroying the only nation on earth based on God's Law.

I have news for you...America won't fall here. This is where the army of God, from the bible, comes from. We will unite the free world against China who will raise its own army of 2 million souls to stand against us.

Freedom is from God. forget religion. forget differences. ignore the divide and look at what I'm saying to you.

the Army of God is an Army of FREE PEOPLE who stand against those WHO WOULD TAKE OUR FREEDOM!

we are all, all of us here debating this, part of that army. Christian, Muslim, Jew, ethnicity, culture, location, left wing, right wing, middle of the road, gay, straight, man, woman....everything under the sun that is free and that He has created whether you want to believe in His creation and Amazing Grace or not...

it is time to STAND
or fall.

come, stand with me...I have jellybeans and lots of friends, you won't be alone, you aren't alone
you don't have to believe in God to look around and see the absolute truth of what I'm saying

and, if you don't see that truth, then you'd better start thinking of a way to find it
the time of the quick and the dead is very f****** nigh

Dawn
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skepticat
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Out of my mind...yeah, I go bonkers when a liberal government administration raises taxes an additional 680 billion dollars after being in office a little over two years, with plans of more tax hikes on the table. The American people are already paying 50% of their income toward taxes. It is time to send Obama and his cronies packing.
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CharlieMedina
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What your problem paying 50% taxes IF you get in return good services, as health, employment, security, housing? It is better with low taxes and meeting millions of criminals on streets?

Don´t be mad! American society was experimenting an urgent need of order, good administration and prevision. Don´t yo believe it?

Regards from Charlie (former agente 0000007)
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I agree with you about the Muslim scrourge and their hate and murder philosphy. God is supposed to be about love and peace, they seem to have forgotten.

But I can't agree with you that god will save us. God has a bad reputation for saving anybody from anything. I think you (all of us) need to make up our minds to save the country ourselves. The problem is that the 240 million people can't agree on what the problem is or will be.

So, the enemy will find it easy to divide and conquer, the former being status quo and the latter the inevitable.

kind regards,
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JamesDMcAllister
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Bullshit!!! That is a complete diatribe of asinine crap!!! There will be no good services in health care or security and screw the housing because there will be none of that either!!!

Urgent need of order?
GOOD ADMINISTRATION and PROVISION?
The government will provide all we need???
That is socialism!!!
We are living in a police state right now and you give in to this garbage???

Unemployment is off the charts in this country and you believe that this Obama God is going to fix it! This man is a blister on the ass of humanity and you worship him like he is Jesus....

Professor...50% taxes???? You are a socialist!!! Do not tell anyone you "were" one when you agree with such crap!

Sounds like the good old USSR to me, sir! Go join them!

Bullshit!!!!
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JamesDMcAllister
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I will stand with you and fight the socialist oppression until all the Professors that suck up the socialist call drag the last breath out of my dying body!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



and I will gladly accept the red jelly bean token as a memento of my patriotic freedom and the wisdom to smell people that are full of Barry Soetoro poop so I can get out of the way!

God help us all when the shit hits the fan!

James...
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JamesDMcAllister
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You are still a socialist and you are among those that I now despise...good luck with that crap and you will need it!
Kiss off!
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andrew99
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You people seem to think that its possible to elect anyone you want for President, whether its a Communist or a rock star. Suppose the Snoop-Dog had 75% of the support for President, then he has to go through the hoops of getting on the ballet. And after he is "elected" by a majority vote, he could be defeated by the electoral college. Didn't you hear about the super delegates. They can vote down anyone over the majority. Sound a little like KIng George? There goes your rock star (or Communist) President in a small puff of white smoke.

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andrew99
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Dawn I agree with you about China. And the corporations here keep teaching them all about the new technology they have.

But I can't base my decisions on their god-less ways or their indifference to the "prophecies" of some lunitic in your black book. The threat from China is not immediate but in the future. The present threat is Islam. Iran keeps saying how they are going to bomb Israel in an effort to unite the Arab world with them. Even if they partially succeed, it would be a powerful foe because of the sheer numbers.

It may take another world war if it comes to that and I do believe it will escalate. Germany started 5 world wars in the las 120 years, lost all of them, and is once again the most powerful country in Europe. But there is a difference. After they had a bomb go through every house and lost numerous family members, they are now pacifist. And thats what it takes unfortunately, the Arabs have not had that experience yet but their time is coming, or the next President will address us by sitting on floor with his legs folded, wearing dark glasses and sporting a long white beard, wearing a rag on his head.

Gone are the days when the ladies had credit cards. And when they go shopping with their husbands they need to walk behind him. And when you speak to him, you need to turn your eyes away from his. When you go to the doctor, your husband will explain what problems you have, the lady keeps quiet. You can only wear long black cloth with 2 littles holes for you see out of.

Are you ready Dawn?






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andrew99
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I hope you're right Prof. we need this government to come to its senses. The Republican rhetoric is not good for the American public, its only good if you have a lot of money. By their actions you can tell that they do not represent the people that elected them. They keep promising "trickle down" but during 8 years of Bush I saw no such trickle down.
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lehmann520
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Andrew,

You are correct about Islam.
For a while now I have been trying to think that Islam, like any other religion, is flawed and full of flawed ideas about God. I have been in the Islam thread trying to find their rational center.
I looked into Islam ...how it is founded, who are its holy men and holy ideas. What I found shocked me.
It is a belief system based on blood and the stories of a warrior prophet. It doesn't have a moderate center. They believe in wrath and anger and forced compliance. They believe that the only reason they have faith is because they fear god's retribution. Their version of peace is one where peace is enforced.
That isn't peace.

During the time I was investigating Islam, I saw China as the great enemy of America (perhaps expressed through NKorea). I thought communism was the true enemy and the direction I should turn to face and fight.
I was wrong.

Now, Andrew, you won't like this...our president is a Muslim, a follower of Islam. I know that what evidence there is of this is sketchy at best and I know saying this sounds like kooky right wing propaganda...but there's no way around saying it and it must be said.
He nearly fell over in abeyance to a Islamic leader. The "catholics" he chooses to be near him are all Islamic sympathizers and militant racial equality people. The people around Barack Obama profess to like the teachings of Malcolm X and Mao Tse Tong.

I am not a christian. I am not seeing this man's religion through the eyes of a religiously opposed person. I'm seeing it through the eyes of some one who values peace above everything and I think peace is freedom and freedom is EVERYTHING.

I was wrong about communism. It is the tool, not the tool user.
This president stands alone. He is not right or left or center. He doesn't care about politics or what is good for us as a country. He doesn't care about his political strength or his political captital.

You ask, am I ready to wear the hood of female shame and repression that comes with Islam.
No. I will never wear that hood. Nor will my daughter.
Andrew, are you ready to see the truth? Are you willing to see with clear eyes that Islam is now running this country?

You are correct about Islam Andrew. I was wrong. Now, do me a favor, and LOOK at the man in charge.

Dawn
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The problem with Islam is that there are Muslim Immams that teach the hate of the infidels. This is their way of coming into power by giving these people a cause (however real or contrived). This is an old trick but it still works. When they attacked the WTC, Bush's popularity shot up to about 88%. It was the best thing that ever happened to him. And Karen Hughes was trying to get the most miles out of it ever since.

But if you look at the grand scheme of things, nobody is doing anything bad (politically) to them (the Muslim states). But you can't find one, not one, of these Immams to stand up and say what Islam is supposed to be about. What, and then lose their powerful grip? They know full well from where the butter comes for the bread. And that is where it stays. So the Muslim populace is slave to various rogue Immams, each one of them having the dogma similar to Hitler's. And they train the children from a very young age (pre teen) at schools called Madrassas.

As far as Obama, his family was Muslim but they did not practice the religion very strongly as evidenced by the clothes they wear in pictures. If he were truly Muslim, you would not find him anywhere near a Protestant church (which he attends). Mischele is certainly not like a Muslim wife. I can't convict and then hang him on the slim evidence there is.
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lehmann520
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I hear you and I understand. I know that you are a thinking man and not willing to go on what scant proof there is. I respect that.

Just, keep watching please. Keep questioning his faith as you question mine. Please.

He doesn't act like a politician Andrew. He acts like a man with nothing to lose...

Dawn
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JamesDMcAllister
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This is not about what I think...you kill the messenger! This is about what I see with my own two eyes...this is what is going on in this country and it is smeared all over every publication around the world! I am not making it up! As soon as some one hears remarks..."Obama is a socialist dog" they become hyper angry...I call it as I see it, I don't sit around bored and lazy creating lies!!

Because this president based and won his election on a platform of lies and deceit is grounds enough to fire his ass... why is it that I must be so reverent and respectful to a man that is a total liar and then be threatened with arrest by the government for sedition? I do not owe honor and respect to Obama or any other government official "they owe it to me" and the United States Constitution and the oath we all take to defend it against attack both foreign and domestic!!! This group of men are the problem! They behave like we work for them and not the other way around!
He was elected in and all the "pussies" that call themselves Senators do not have the balls to oust his ass! That is because they too are corrupt and swimming in a great pond of wealth and power!This has become a national and international scandal and we are the test rats!

You believe what you want
I'll believe what I see and what men actually "do"...Obama has done nothing but deceive!

James...
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lehmann520
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Kill the messenger...how very aptly put.

I'm trying James. I'm trying with every bit of skill and charm I have.

Can we still win? Is it time to give up the ghost? I'm sitting here, drunk and forlorn, with my brain bulging at the seams and trying to make sense of the nonsensical.

Tell me, is it time to quit?

Dawn
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JamesDMcAllister
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Never quit! Tell the truth and move on to the next person! We will win!
James...
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andrew99
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There you go again making accusations without facts. We know your impression of events that have occurred, but no proof. You come across like someone that suffers from paranoia and trying to convince everybody else of your false impressions.

Just making wild allegations with no examples or proof does nothing to prove your case. And thats straight from my pa toot.

regards,
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JamesDMcAllister
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You are a complete moron...you wouldn't know the truth or 'facts' if they hit you in the head...you are a mind numb sheep! NO REGARDS! You do no research what so ever...you suck the tit of the corporate media whores and believe what ever they tell you! Wild allegations my ass! Do the research and wake the hell up! It will be too late for you, little man!
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andrew99
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So, I should try to prove your wild accusations. You should research your own things and try to prove it to people instead of trying to ram it down their throats with curse words and name calling.

bye
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JamesDMcAllister
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You are correct and I stand corrected...I apologize for the brash rant and you did not deserve it...I will admit when I am wrong.

The fight is not with you and I really do know better. What you and I believe in our separate lives is what, in all actuality, makes living in this country so wonderful. You are not my enemy and I sometimes get so drawn into the discussion that I fail to maintain a clear prospective on the respect that I owe you!

I will endeavor to maintain a more respectful and polite attitude...even if I disagree on subject matter.

regards
James...

p.s. it really sucks when words that are uttered for such a brief moment last forever...especially hurtful ones...those words are not the way I think or believe...I wish I could take them back...
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andrew99
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Its ok James, I run into it a lot.

regards,
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Alpha
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Never heard of that to happen must be a rumore
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JamesDMcAllister
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The fact is, if you dangle a golden carrot in front of a politician, they grow more corrupt!
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Alpha
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Is there evan a such thing called the golden carrot.
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Alpha
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Republicans are not out of there mind and yes we wouldn't have been in war If obama wasn't in Charge
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Good God Man!! What is it that you are really trying to say?
You just supported both sides! WOW!! Did you finish the eighth grade?
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