Main nya hu pls batyan radha soami wale tambaku pina mna ku karte hai

Because it is ONE of the BIGGEST OBSTACLE in meditation.

(jisko kha kar insan gande kaam kar bethta hei,aur jo hame ishwar se durr kar deta hei, agar ham tambaku khate hei, to isko tyag dena chahiye, aur achi raah par chalna shuru kardena chahiye)

Aap radha soami mat main kab se ho?

Radha swami hu to bachpan se, par akal thodi der se aai thi, mujhe santmat ki asal pehchan jab mei 12 years ka tha tab aai thi.

asal mei radhaswami se yeh matlab nahi ki kisne kitni baar satsang sune he,ya kitni bar dera beas gaya hei, ya fir naamdan leya ho.naamdan lene se koi satsangi nahi ban jata. unke usulo par bhi chalna parda hei aur EKAGRATA lani parti hei. MEDITATION.

Ab aap kitne years ke ho

28 years

VITAL DIFFERENCE OF OPINION APART, MAY GOD SHOWER ALL HIS BLESSINGS UPON SUCH A DEVOTED SATSANGI, AT THIS YOUNG AGE, FOR BEST OF HEALTH, PROSPERITY AND HAPPINESS ALL AROUND,FOR SUCH A DEEP KNOWLEDGE AND FAITH IN SPIRITUALITY.

Thanx
But in spirituality only knowledge is not sufficient IMPLEMENTATION is also nesessary.for me which will take some time only through meditation .

Sai bulle shah says.....
Ved puran par par thakk gae,
Sajde kar kar khiz gae mate,
Na koi tirath, na koi makke,
Jisne vi paya iss dil vich yar.

Tambaku kese meditation main obstical hai?

Kajee read my post aur usko samjho. Mene likha hei ki, tambaku khane se dimag kharab hojata hei,imbalance hojata hei. Jiske karan insan galat steps uthata hei.gande karam karta hei. Tambaku mei nasha hota hei,isliye dimag kabu mei nahi rehta.
Tambku me carbon monoxide hota hei,which reduces amount of oxygen available in brain.which leads to inbalance in your brain/mind.

Tobacco--leads--unconsious mind--leads--wrong way--leads--bad karmas--leads--far away from god--leads--non truth.

Jab hame sach nahi(non truth) milta,ki sach kya hei,fir dukh uthane parte hei.

Tabhi sai bulle shah ne kaha tha.

"oh shah asa to vakh nahi,
Par vekhan vali aakh nahi,
Tahi jaan judaiya sehndi ae".

Palyal81 ji is kya aap jante ho soami ji maharaj (founder of radha swami)shiv dayal ji bhe huka pite the

Mujhe pata tha aap yeh question kahi na khi aa kar zarur puchoge.

Listen dear
Read the book ''dharti upar swarg''
U will get ur answer.
Hukka has nothing nicotine it just smoke out of coal.

One main thing here.swami ji maharaj was taking the test of jaimal singh ji.caz jaiml singh ji was puzzelled wether to accept non sikh guru or not.plz read the book.

Bad is bad and its definition can't be changed by one's convenience. Nor the definition of bad can be changed by knowing as to who did a certain act. The information about inhaling nicotine through HUKAH is quite misleading. In this regards, following facts are available on internet to confirm the bad effects of HUKAH:-

1. A hookah is not a substance, but an Asian water pipe in which the smoke from, say, tobacco is drawn through water to cool and purify it. Although the cooling is effective, the filtration is not, and many of the harmful constituents of smoke remain to be inhaled.


Since hookah-smoking sessions are social event lasting for thirty minutes or more, the hookah smoker will inhale much more nicotine than if he had smoked a single cigarette.

2. The little research that does exist, though, shows preliminary evidence that suggest hookahs are not any safer than cigarettes, and as with cigarettes, effects may include a higher chance of developing heart disease and/or lung cancer. Some studies have also shown that a person inhales 100-200 times more smoke (by volume) during a typical one hour hookah smoking session than when smoking one cigarette – because the hookah smoke is cooled by water, it can be inhaled more deeply and held for a longer length of time. On the other hand, because hookah smoking is usually a social activity, those who use hookah pipes might not be smoking as often or as much as cigarette, cigar, and pipe smokers.

To risk stating the obvious, the tobacco used in a hookah is still tobacco, so its smokers are still exposed to:

• Nicotine: The addictive chemical in tobacco products. While the pipe's water absorbs some nicotine, research suggests that hookah smoke delivers enough of the drug to potentially lead to addiction.

• Tar: Hookah tobacco does not contain tar... until you light it, that is. Tar is produced when hookah tobacco is burned, so hookah smokers' lungs will still be exposed to the brown, sticky material that leads to cancer, emphysema, and other health problems in smokers, as well as causes stains on teeth and fingers.

• Carbon monoxide: A colorless, odorless gas that is toxic to humans. The amount produced by a hookah pipe depends on several factors, including the kind of tobacco, the type of charcoal, and the size of the pipe being used. In general, using commercial (quick-lighting) charcoal makes for higher levels of carbon monoxide. Also, smaller hookah pipes appear to deliver the most carbon monoxide, followed by cigarettes, with larger hookahs producing relatively less.

So, for all purposes, HUKAH can be even more harmful than cigarettes, because HUKAH sessions are 30-60 minutes long and involve more consumption of nicotine. Hence, it comes under the definition of intoxication since nicotine is among recreational drugs. Rather apart from nicotine, there are more bad effects of HUKAH as compared to cigarette as has been elaborated above.

Similar is the position about the definition of lacto-vegetarian diet, which includes consumption of milk which is product of animals, may be a goat's milk or cow's milk or buffalo's milk and it is meant for young ones of these animals only. Correct and well known definition of vegetarian food is food, which is product of vegetation i. e. product of plants only. In that case, Soya milk is vegetarian milk but not cow’s milk etc. This is despite the fact that child is bound to take mother's milk from birth. But mother's milk is not sold for use of other kids/children.


Even man was meat eater in the stone-age and started eating plants and its products at very late stage. Even now, if all humans start eating vegetarian food, many will die of hunger for want of sufficient vegetarian food.

Yar mr. 0027 i have already told hukka without nicotine ad u r considering with nicotine,then wht shld i do.
Agar woh hukka pite the toh hame koi problem nhi hei bhai. Apko hei tob rahe. I just wanna say u have no kowledge about THE REAL HISTORY OF RSSB.

God bless your thinking...

Having said,"

1. Tambku me carbon monoxide hota hei,which reduces amount of oxygen available in brain.which leads to inbalance in your brain/mind.

Tobacco--leads--unconsious mind--leads--wrong way--leads--bad karmas--leads--far away from god--leads--non truth.
2. Mujhe pata tha aap yeh question kahi na khi aa kar zarur puchoge.

Hukka has nothing nicotine it just smoke out of coal.
3. Yar mr. 0027 i have already told hukka without nicotine ad u r considering with nicotine,then wht shld i do.
Agar woh hukka pite the toh hame koi problem nhi hei bhai. Apko hei tob rahe. I just wanna say u have no kowledge about THE REAL HISTORY OF RSSB."

====>Question of HUKAH, without nicotine, during the period of Radhasoami Sahab Sri Shivdayal Singh (24 Aug.1818 to 15 June 1878 A.D.), did not arise at all, whether Master’s taking HUKAH is of concern or not it is one’s own thinking.

Thanks for leaving it to others, now, to view the facts with reference to spiritual philosophy.

My regard....


Jaker swamiji se puchlo phir...&

I am not leaving the concept on others. I said u hv no knowledge of RSSB.

I think you are still confused with vegetarian diet. Generally in indian context, when we say vegetarian we mean Lacto vegetarian diet, i.e we must eat food in which we don't have to kill beings higher beings than plants.
Milk is a highly sattvic food i.e it don't affects consciousness in mediataion and it has been practically observed.

Learn more about sattvic food here,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sattvic_diet

Firstly, during SaomiJi's time, it was not considered bad to smoke water pipe/hookah. Hookahs came into prominence at the time of muguls. During that time in India, the water pipe was a symbol of pride and honor for the landlords, kings and other such high class people. In many different culutures, many wise Sufis, Buddhishts, Hindus and Christians have smoked pipe. Smoking may not be good for heatlth but smoking is not a particularly great determinant of spiritual attainment.

Secondly, In radha soami faith, smoking Hookah/Cigarette was also not under the 5 moral requirements for initiation into the faith-
1. Ahimsa (Non-violence in thought, word, and deed) including in the area of diet, as in following a vegetarain diet (abstinence from meat, fish, poultry and eggs, fertilized or non-fertilized).
2. Abstinence from alcohol and drugs.
3. Leading a truthful life.
4. Practicing non-stealing: an honest, ethical source of income.
5. Loyalty to ones spouse.


Because of the harmful effects of smoking, presently it is encouraged more and more for Not Smoking.
Many more new intiatives are added that include - Stopping Female Foeticide, Blood donation, Helping old and pregnant women, Saving Water, Trees, etc.
FYI, we are still smoking smoke coming out of vehicles.

Instead of finding minor faults and spreading negativity, i encourage you to keep an open mind and spread love.

That's ,what I was trying to say you that, hukah without nicotine & swami ji was not a chain hukah smokker.He only used it to take the test of maharaj jaimal singh ji.

one day, jailmal singh ji camed to swami ji maharaj(one sadhu directed jaimal ji to go agra for panch naam) to have spiritual master,he want's to become his divotee , what did jaimal ji saw swami ji maharaj was without turban (monna)but jailmal ji was searching for a sikh master , & secondly swami ji was having hukah. jaimal ji was confused here what to do.BUT MASTERS ARE MASTERS

I have already told you to read the book "dharti par swarg" page no.6 para no.3 , if you want to read. if not, it's your own will and don't stretch the topic.

1. Jaker swamiji se puchlo phir...&
I am not leaving the concept on others. I said u hv no knowledge of RSSB.

2. Firstly, during SaomiJi's time, it was not considered bad to smoke water pipe/hookah.

3. Secondly, In radha soami faith, smoking Hookah/Cigarette was also not under the 5 moral requirements for initiation into the faith- Nor this aspect is among new initiatives which are reported to have been added that include - Stopping Female Foeticide, Blood donation, Helping old and pregnant women, Saving Water, Trees, etc.

4. swami ji was not a chain hukah smokker.He only used it to take the test of maharaj jaimal singh ji.

===> Thanks again, for more and more confusion about effect of HUKAH/Smoking on spirituality as also for updating information about changes in RSSB’s philosophy.

===> Thanks again, for more and more confusion about effect of HUKAH/Smoking on spirituality as also for updating information about changes in RSSB’s philosophy. ??


"yahi to apki baat hume achi lagti hei, ki apko kuch samjh hi nahi aata hei."

kitni baar kaha yaar, kitab parh le, kitab parh le.par tum ho ki , bat ko khichhhhhhe chale ja rahe ho. itni der mei to aap kitab par sakte the.chalo ok mana ki swami ji hukah pite the,jese ki 0027 aap keh rahe ho. par unhone to kabhi apne divoties ko hukah pine ke liye nahi kaha na. to apko kya problem hei.???bhai sahab jaker unse pucho jinhone swami ji se naam liya hua hei unki andruni tarakii dekho phir baat karna aakar. faltu ki ghaflat me kuch nahi rakha mere dost.

Wut... milk = not vegetrian??
Mere lal.. Bachpan me primary class nakal mar ke paas ki thi ya pitashree ne paise dekar pass karwaya tha?

Bandar kya jane adrak ka sawad....

Who knows whose father taught to bring in and talk something ill of parents while sharing views on a spiritual Forum? Such a behavior displays nothing but lack of ethics or height of EGO or both.

It is also not known as to who told that milk is a product of vegetation/plants and not a product of (mammals)cow, goat or buffalo etc. or vegetarian food does not mean something being product of plants only?

In this regards, please visit the website, “http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetarianism” to confirm the facts.

Milk and eggs:-

One of the main differences between a vegan and a typical vegetarian diet is the avoidance of both eggs and dairy products such as milk, cheese, butter and yogurt. Ethical vegans do not consume dairy or eggs because they state that their production causes the animal suffering and/or a premature death.[117]

To produce milk from dairy cattle all female calves are separated from their mothers soon after birth and slaughtered or fed milk replacer in order to retain the cows milk for human consumption.[118]

Vegans state that this breaks the natural mother and calf bond.[118] Unwanted male calves are either slaughtered at birth or sent for veal production.[118] To prolong lactation, dairy cows are almost permanently kept pregnant through artificial insemination.[118] After about five years, once the cows milk production has dropped, they are considered "spent" and sent to slaughter for hamburger meat and their hides. A dairy cow's natural life expectancy is about twenty years.[117]

In battery cage and free-range egg production, unwanted male chicks are culled or discarded at birth during the process of securing a further generation of egg-laying hens.[119]

How many times do i have to tell you that milk in general is sattvic food and have little to no effect on spirituality.
Yes, if animals are being slaughtered to get milk, then there is a great decrease in its sattvic value.

Read these articles,

http://www.spiritualresearchfoundation.org/articles/id/spiritual-research/spiritual-science/spiritual-effects-and-benefits-of-cow-s-milk

http://sivanandaonline.org/public_html/?cmd=displaysection§ion_id=437

Bhans ke age been bajan da ki fayda..

Ur parents teach u to make ninda of saints and speak lies? Not gud. Ek dahle bhar ka jawab de nahi sakta.. Bada top samajhta hain apne aap ko.

Tell me 1 thing.. That u r radha swami or not?

Having so much knowledge should not lead to confusion but clarity only.

1. A sattvic diet, also referred to as a yoga diet or sentient diet, is a diet based on foods that—according to Ayurveda and Yoga, are strong in the sattva guna, and lead to clarity and upeksa(equanimity) of mind while also being beneficial to the body.[citation needed] Such foods include water, cereal grains, legumes, vegetables, fruits, nuts, unpasteurized and unhomogenized fresh milk and fresh milk derivatives (mostly ghee, but also butter, cream, cheese(paneer), and yogurt(lassi)), and raw honey.[citation needed]

2. Tamasic Food: Foods that are kept overnight (leftovers) are considered tamasic, as they lose their vital essences and may have grown microorganisms. Any foods that involve the harm of another being are also considered tamasic,

3. Rajasic Food: Overly-sweet foods are considered rajasic. Too much spice, sugar, or salt may render what was a sattvic food to become rajasic or tamasic.((fact}}

== > Question of defining vegetarian food, even if linked with taking Satvic diet/yoga diet alone, then also foods that are kept overnight are considered tamasic as they lose their vital essences and may have grown microorganisms.

4. Firstly, during SaomiJi's time, it was not considered bad to smoke water pipe/hookah. Hookahs came into prominence at the time of muguls. During that time in India, the water pipe was a symbol of pride and honor for the landlords, kings and other such high class people. In many different culutures, many wise Sufis, Buddhishts, Hindus and Christians have smoked pipe. Smoking may not be good for heatlth but smoking is not a particularly great determinant of spiritual attainment.

Secondly, In radha soami faith, smoking Hookah/Cigarette was also not under the 5 moral requirements for initiation into the faith-

=== >Similarly lot of confusion had been created on the subject of HUKAH

5. Ur parents teach u to make ninda of saints and speak lies? Not gud. Ek dahle bhar ka jawab de nahi sakta.. Bada top samajhta hain apne aap ko.

== > It is also surprising to note that someone can also continue blaming one's parents for sharing any views on this forum. Does it demonstrate good ethics of a SATSANGI who is also raising a question as if this forum is being shared by a SATSANGI or by a NON-SATSANGI? It does not appear to be appropriate to say that SATSANGI is displaying all these ethics, as taught to him by parents or by his GURU.

It is also surprising to note that someone can also continue blaming one's parents for sharing any views on this forum. Does it demonstrate good ethics of a SATSANGI who is also raising a question as if this forum is being shared by a SATSANGI or by a NON-SATSANGI?


yar tu kyu apna B.P(blood pressure) high kar raha hei. kyu itni tenstion le raha hei.

yar to ta hukke de naal e chimbad gaya :)

It does not appear to be appropriate to say that SATSANGI is displaying all these ethics, as taught to him by parents or by his GURU. ???
my dear lolli-pop friend don't get hyper. relaxxxxxxx, take a deeeeeeeeeeeep breathhhhhh. :) &

left hukah ,veg,non veg topic, caz what we all are trying to clarify you, eighter you don't wants to understad or not trying to understand... or


do one thing, go and purchase hukah for your self , and start using it, after few months , if you suffer through some symptoms share with us. thats a good idea , hena ?? :)

U radha swami or not?...bata de mere lal mohanlal.. Kha nahi jayunga mein tereko...

Following posts shared during March-April, reval the extent of valuable contributions by a self proclaimed true SIKH, who is now asking for sending a copy of certificate/degree of others as if one is a SAYSANGI or not. Else there is threat,"Kha nahi jayunga mein tereko..." which is accepted after evaluating one's capabilities to such an extent even.

It is pointed out that in the copied posts the true SIKH gentleman has not contributed any words other than copied down as under in 20 of his posts during the said period, which have been posted in reply to different persons.


1. Sat sri akal ji... i m not radha swami...(ON 30.03.2013)
2. I m not satsangi.... Epic fail lmao
3. And plzz stop posing as sikh. A true sikh nevar critisize anyn1. Is that wat guru nanak ji taught us?
4. Everytym i read ur post i cannt stop lauging lol.. Kisko fuddu bana raho ho mere maa ke lal?
5. Agar 10% seva dena mein satsangio ko koi aitraaj nahi hai, toh teri **** mein kyun mirch lag rahi hai bhadwe?
6. Shut up faggot..
7. U radha swami or not?...bata de mere lal mohanlal.. Kha nahi jayunga mein tereko...
8. Ur parents teach u to make ninda of saints and speak lies? Not gud. Ek dahle bhar ka jawab de nahi sakta.. Bada top samajhta hain apne aap ko.
9. Bhans ke age been bajan da ki fayda..
10. Bandar kya jane adrak ka sawad....
11. Mere lal.. Bachpan me primary class nakal mar ke paas ki thi ya pitashree ne paise dekar pass karwaya tha?
12. Ida matbal ki tahanu mantal doctor di lod haigi c....
13. Plzz dont lie maa ke lal.
tis book is not available on internet free of cost. if wat u say is true then show me the link plzz.
14. Toh phir mere lal amazon par 45 dollar par yah book aapke pitashree ne upload kiti hai ji?

Loka nu fuddu banan band kar mere lal.
15. Ulta chor kotwal ko dante hahaha. u are a 2 face character. Aur by th way yahan par sab apne maa ke lal hain, kya aap nahi hai mere lal?
16. Tum bhi jaida dudh se dhule nahi ho. Dusro ke girebaan mein jhankne se pehle zara apne kartoot bhi dekh lo.
17. How old r u ? 5..
18. Cool story bro. u must join church of the churchless. There are enough goons like u there.
19. Ahaha lolz. Lagta hai susingh ne apne maa ka dudh nahi piya hai lol

20. Mere lal.. Bachpan me primary class nakal mar ke paas ki thi ya pitashree ne paise dekar pass karwaya tha?

VOW ! What a valuable contributions by a self proclaimed true SIKH Gentleman !

u satsangi or not?
Just say Yes or no. No certifcate reqd...

Problem ye hai ki sab log apna apna dimag laga lete hai.

pata kakh nahi or explain duniya bhar ki karte hai.

Oh my god, dekho mere naam ki fake ID. Pehle resonable ki banai thi, ab palyal ki bana di. Ufff yeh log. chalo koi baat nahi, any how. Carry onnnnn.

Yhe discussion form nahi lagta. lagta hai ye sabji mandi hai jha har koi aapni aapni bza raha hai .swal tambku ka tha . yaha kya kya answar aa gay. sr dard ho gaya.

Hahahahah, dont worry my dear friend jease har serial program k baad ek break ka ana zarui hota hei, wase hi ase MR. FAKE ID" jase reasonable & palyal" jese namuno ka bhi ana zaruri hei, enetertainment hota rahta hei. heheheheh,let them carry,

Dear friend kajee, as you know I have posted topic on discussion ''fake id'' u know what, it has been removed now i have posted second time. I think the owner of this form has removed

Ha kar le entertainment. or kuch kaam to hai nahi tum logo ko. khali entertainment ke liye hi sab comment likhte ho.

sharam nahi ki tum apne spiritual beliefs ko entertainment ke liye use kar rahe ho.

Pehle apni knowledge bata. what do u understand by SATSANGI?

Mere lal entertainment koi belief nahi balki khud aap hai ahahaha

Mere lal, sawal mein susingh se kar raha hun toh teri kyun fatt ra rahi hai..

Sat means sach.
Sangi means sath

Sach ki tah par chalne vale,sach ka sath dene wale ko satsangi kehte hei.
Ham sab satsngi hei, sikh bhai gurudware jate hei woh satsangi hei,hindu bhai mandir jate hei woh satsangi hei,muslim dargah jate he woh satsngi ne,isai church jate he woh stsangi hi, jo ishwar ke marg par chalta hei woh satsngi hei.

App kon ho. Entertainer...????

Aap nashwan vastou ko sat bata kar apne gyan ka prechya de rhe ho. yhi to problam hai jb tak smaj nahi aai the tb sub sach lagta tha aab nahi.

Yeh apko nashwan lah rahi hei,??? & gurdwra,mandir,church,dargah, Mr. kajee, yeh sab santo mahatmao ka diya hua hei, beshak yaha se panchnaam nahi milsakta but, atleast hame eizzat to karni chahiye.

mei apne gyan ka parichye nahi de raha , don't be JUDGEMENTAL atleast...!!!

Kash yaha par hindi or punjabi mai likh skta .english mai likhne se dohe ka arth bdal jata hai jo aap ko smaj nahi aata. SANT TULSI SAHIB SAYS, PANCHO NAM KALL KE JANO.

Phir vo hi haal hai is ladke ka, isko pata kuch nahi, bus bol diya yahan panch nam nahi milta, or yeh hi zaruri hai.

abe tere maa baap dada dadi, kya in sab ne baba g se hi naam liya.

or baba g ke jaane ke baad kya koi naam daan nahi dega.

hero lal ye srishti, chal rahi thi, chal ahi hai or chalti rahegi, ye sab guru aate hai, kuch din jivan jite hai, or chale jaate hai.

don't stick to them, but only on their preach, which is essential.

other wise, later when they will leave, you will not find the life understandable.

Hhhahahahhh
to tu ka khajoor se tapka he kya.

I know who are you an why u r using my name's ID

The language you are using shows the family background.

Oh realyyyyyy.
Thank you batankeliye.

Apne meri ankhen kholdi.

Aap he batado mr.kajee phir panch naam kya hote hi jo kaal se alag hei.


&

you have told us "Main nya hu pls batyan radha soami wale tambaku pina mna ku karte hai"

apko to itna kuch pata hei bhai sahib , to abh bhi apko kuch nahi pata?