Electoral region of North Metropolitan
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The electoral region of North Metropolitan is a multi-member electoral region of the Western Australia
n Legislative Council
, located in the north-western and western suburbs of Perth
. It was created by the Acts Amendment (Electoral Reform) Act 1987, and became effective on 22 May 1989 with seven members who had been elected at the 1989 state election
three months earlier. At the 2008 election
, it was decreased to six members.
districts
, which change at each distribution.
and Sam Piantadosi (both North Central Metropolitan
), Graham Edwards
and Bob Pike (both North Metropolitan
) and Max Evans (Metropolitan
).
Notes:
Western Australia
Western Australia is a state of Australia, occupying the entire western third of the Australian continent. It is bounded by the Indian Ocean to the north and west, the Great Australian Bight and Indian Ocean to the south, the Northern Territory to the north-east and South Australia to the south-east...
n Legislative Council
Western Australian Legislative Council
The Legislative Council, or upper house, is one of the two chambers of parliament in the Australian state of Western Australia. Its central purpose is to act as a house of review for legislation passed through the lower house, the Legislative Assembly. It sits in Parliament House in the state...
, located in the north-western and western suburbs of Perth
Perth, Western Australia
Perth is the capital and largest city of the Australian state of Western Australia and the fourth most populous city in Australia. The Perth metropolitan area has an estimated population of almost 1,700,000....
. It was created by the Acts Amendment (Electoral Reform) Act 1987, and became effective on 22 May 1989 with seven members who had been elected at the 1989 state election
Western Australian state election, 1989
Elections were held in the state of Western Australia on 4 February 1989 to elect all 57 members to the Legislative Assembly and all 34 members to the Legislative Council...
three months earlier. At the 2008 election
Western Australian state election, 2008
A general election was held in the state of Western Australia on Saturday 6 September 2008 to elect 59 members to the Legislative Assembly and 36 members to the Legislative Council...
, it was decreased to six members.
Geography
The Region is made up of several complete Legislative AssemblyWestern Australian Legislative Assembly
The Legislative Assembly, or lower house, is one of the two chambers of parliament in the Australian state of Western Australia. It sits in Parliament House in the state capital, Perth....
districts
Electoral districts of Western Australia
The Western Australian Legislative Assembly is elected from 59 single-member electoral districts. These districts are often referred to as electorates or seats....
, which change at each distribution.
Redistribution | Period | Electoral districts | Electors | % of State | Area |
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29 April 1988 | 22 May 1989–22 May 1997 | Balcatta Electoral district of Balcatta The Electoral district of Balcatta is an electoral district of the Legislative Assembly in the Australian state of Western Australia.The district is based in Perth's northern suburbs. Politically, it has been considered a safe Labor seat throughout its history, although is presently marginal... , Cottesloe Electoral district of Cottesloe The Electoral district of Cottesloe is a Legislative Assembly electorate in the state of Western Australia. Cottesloe is named for the western Perth suburb of Cottesloe which falls within its borders.-History:... , Dianella Electoral district of Dianella Dianella was an electoral district of the Legislative Assembly in the Australian state of Western Australia from 1977 to 1983 and again from 1989 to 1996.The district was based in the northern suburbs of Perth.-History:... , Floreat Electoral district of Floreat Floreat was an electoral district of the Legislative Assembly in the Australian state of Western Australia from 1968 to 1996.The district was based in the inner northwestern suburbs of Perth and was created in the 1966 redistribution... , Glendalough Electoral district of Glendalough The Electoral district of Glendalough was a Legislative Assembly electorate in the state of Western Australia. The district was named for the inner northern Perth suburb of Glendalough, which fell within its borders. The seat was abolished after two terms at the 1994 redistribution, taking effect... , Kingsley Electoral district of Kingsley -External links:* ABC Election Profiles: * WAEC District Maps:... , Marangaroo Electoral district of Marangaroo Marangaroo was an electoral district of the Legislative Assembly in the Australian state of Western Australia from 1989 to 1996.The district was based in Perth's northern suburbs. It was a safe Labor seat.-History:... , Marmion Electoral district of Marmion Marmion was an electoral district of the Legislative Assembly in the Australian state of Western Australia from 1989 to 1996.The district was based in Perth's beachside northern suburbs. Politically, it was a safe Liberal seat.-History:... , Nedlands Electoral district of Nedlands The Electoral district of Nedlands is a Legislative Assembly electorate in the state of Western Australia. Nedlands is named for the inner western Perth suburb of Nedlands which falls within its borders.-History:... , Nollamara Electoral district of Nollamara Nollamara is an electoral district of the Legislative Assembly in the Australian state of Western Australia.The district is based in the north-eastern suburbs of Perth. It includes the suburbs of Nollamara, Alexander Heights, Koondoola, Mirrabooka, Westminster and part of the suburb of... , Perth Electoral district of Perth The Electoral district of Perth is a Legislative Assembly electorate in the state of Western Australia. Perth is named for the capital city of Western Australia whose central business district falls within its borders. It is one of the oldest electorates in Western Australia, with its first member... , Scarborough Electoral district of Scarborough Scarborough is an electoral district of the Legislative Assembly in the Australian state of Western Australia.The district is a coastal electorate based in the northern suburbs of Perth and is named for the suburb of Scarborough... , Wanneroo Electoral district of Wanneroo -External links:* ABC Election Profiles: * WAEC District Maps:... , Whitford Electoral district of Whitford Whitford was an electoral district of the Legislative Assembly in the Australian state of Western Australia from 1977 to 1996.-History:The district was based in the northern suburbs of Perth and was created first contested at the 1977 state election... (14) |
278,499 | 30.63% | 990 km² (382.2 sq mi) |
28 November 1994 | 22 May 1997–22 May 2005 | Carine Electoral district of Carine The Electoral district of Carine is an electoral district of the Legislative Assembly in the Australian state of Western Australia.The district is based in Perth's northern suburbs. Politically, it is a safe Liberal seat.-Geography:... , Churchlands Electoral district of Churchlands The Electoral district of Churchlands is a Legislative Assembly electorate in the state of Western Australia. Churchlands is named for the western suburb of Churchlands which falls within its borders, and was created at the 1994 redistribution, replacing the seat of Floreat which had existed since... , Cottesloe Electoral district of Cottesloe The Electoral district of Cottesloe is a Legislative Assembly electorate in the state of Western Australia. Cottesloe is named for the western Perth suburb of Cottesloe which falls within its borders.-History:... , Girrawheen Electoral district of Girrawheen Girrawheen is an electoral district of the Legislative Assembly in the Australian state of Western Australia.The district is based in Perth's northern suburbs. Politically, it is a safe Labor seat.-Geography:... , Hillarys Electoral district of Hillarys Hillarys is an electoral district of the Legislative Assembly in the Australian state of Western Australia.The district is based in Perth's northern suburbs. Politically, it is a safe Liberal seat.-Geography:... , Innaloo Electoral district of Innaloo Innaloo was an electoral district of the Legislative Assembly in the Australian state of Western Australia from 1996 to 2005.The district was based in the northern suburbs of Perth, and named for the suburb of Innaloo... , Joondalup Electoral district of Joondalup Joondalup is an electoral district of the Legislative Assembly in the Australian state of Western Australia.The district is located in the northern suburbs of Perth.Joondalup has tended to be a marginal seat.-Geography:... , Kingsley Electoral district of Kingsley -External links:* ABC Election Profiles: * WAEC District Maps:... , Maylands Electoral district of Maylands Maylands is a Legislative Assembly electorate in the state of Western Australia. Maylands is named for the inner northeastern Perth suburb of Maylands which falls within its borders.... , Nedlands Electoral district of Nedlands The Electoral district of Nedlands is a Legislative Assembly electorate in the state of Western Australia. Nedlands is named for the inner western Perth suburb of Nedlands which falls within its borders.-History:... , Nollamara Electoral district of Nollamara Nollamara is an electoral district of the Legislative Assembly in the Australian state of Western Australia.The district is based in the north-eastern suburbs of Perth. It includes the suburbs of Nollamara, Alexander Heights, Koondoola, Mirrabooka, Westminster and part of the suburb of... , Perth Electoral district of Perth The Electoral district of Perth is a Legislative Assembly electorate in the state of Western Australia. Perth is named for the capital city of Western Australia whose central business district falls within its borders. It is one of the oldest electorates in Western Australia, with its first member... , Wanneroo Electoral district of Wanneroo -External links:* ABC Election Profiles: * WAEC District Maps:... , Yokine Electoral district of Yokine Yokine was a Legislative Assembly electorate in the state of Western Australia from 1996 to 2008. It was named for the northern Perth suburb of Yokine which fell within its borders... (14) |
312,209 | 30.19% | 1005 km² (388 sq mi) |
4 August 2003 | 22 May 2005–22 May 2009 | Balcatta Electoral district of Balcatta The Electoral district of Balcatta is an electoral district of the Legislative Assembly in the Australian state of Western Australia.The district is based in Perth's northern suburbs. Politically, it has been considered a safe Labor seat throughout its history, although is presently marginal... , Carine Electoral district of Carine The Electoral district of Carine is an electoral district of the Legislative Assembly in the Australian state of Western Australia.The district is based in Perth's northern suburbs. Politically, it is a safe Liberal seat.-Geography:... , Churchlands Electoral district of Churchlands The Electoral district of Churchlands is a Legislative Assembly electorate in the state of Western Australia. Churchlands is named for the western suburb of Churchlands which falls within its borders, and was created at the 1994 redistribution, replacing the seat of Floreat which had existed since... , Cottesloe Electoral district of Cottesloe The Electoral district of Cottesloe is a Legislative Assembly electorate in the state of Western Australia. Cottesloe is named for the western Perth suburb of Cottesloe which falls within its borders.-History:... , Girrawheen Electoral district of Girrawheen Girrawheen is an electoral district of the Legislative Assembly in the Australian state of Western Australia.The district is based in Perth's northern suburbs. Politically, it is a safe Labor seat.-Geography:... , Hillarys Electoral district of Hillarys Hillarys is an electoral district of the Legislative Assembly in the Australian state of Western Australia.The district is based in Perth's northern suburbs. Politically, it is a safe Liberal seat.-Geography:... , Joondalup Electoral district of Joondalup Joondalup is an electoral district of the Legislative Assembly in the Australian state of Western Australia.The district is located in the northern suburbs of Perth.Joondalup has tended to be a marginal seat.-Geography:... , Kingsley Electoral district of Kingsley -External links:* ABC Election Profiles: * WAEC District Maps:... , Maylands Electoral district of Maylands Maylands is a Legislative Assembly electorate in the state of Western Australia. Maylands is named for the inner northeastern Perth suburb of Maylands which falls within its borders.... , Mindarie Electoral district of Mindarie The Electoral district of Mindarie is a Legislative Assembly electorate in the state of Western Australia. The district is named for the outer northern Perth suburb of Mindarie which falls within its borders.-History:... , Nedlands Electoral district of Nedlands The Electoral district of Nedlands is a Legislative Assembly electorate in the state of Western Australia. Nedlands is named for the inner western Perth suburb of Nedlands which falls within its borders.-History:... , Perth Electoral district of Perth The Electoral district of Perth is a Legislative Assembly electorate in the state of Western Australia. Perth is named for the capital city of Western Australia whose central business district falls within its borders. It is one of the oldest electorates in Western Australia, with its first member... , Wanneroo Electoral district of Wanneroo -External links:* ABC Election Profiles: * WAEC District Maps:... , Yokine Electoral district of Yokine Yokine was a Legislative Assembly electorate in the state of Western Australia from 1996 to 2008. It was named for the northern Perth suburb of Yokine which fell within its borders... (14) |
374,168 | 30.78% | 996 km² (384.6 sq mi) |
29 October 2007 | 22 May 2009–22 May 2017 | Balcatta Electoral district of Balcatta The Electoral district of Balcatta is an electoral district of the Legislative Assembly in the Australian state of Western Australia.The district is based in Perth's northern suburbs. Politically, it has been considered a safe Labor seat throughout its history, although is presently marginal... , Carine Electoral district of Carine The Electoral district of Carine is an electoral district of the Legislative Assembly in the Australian state of Western Australia.The district is based in Perth's northern suburbs. Politically, it is a safe Liberal seat.-Geography:... , Churchlands Electoral district of Churchlands The Electoral district of Churchlands is a Legislative Assembly electorate in the state of Western Australia. Churchlands is named for the western suburb of Churchlands which falls within its borders, and was created at the 1994 redistribution, replacing the seat of Floreat which had existed since... , Cottesloe Electoral district of Cottesloe The Electoral district of Cottesloe is a Legislative Assembly electorate in the state of Western Australia. Cottesloe is named for the western Perth suburb of Cottesloe which falls within its borders.-History:... , Girrawheen Electoral district of Girrawheen Girrawheen is an electoral district of the Legislative Assembly in the Australian state of Western Australia.The district is based in Perth's northern suburbs. Politically, it is a safe Labor seat.-Geography:... , Hillarys Electoral district of Hillarys Hillarys is an electoral district of the Legislative Assembly in the Australian state of Western Australia.The district is based in Perth's northern suburbs. Politically, it is a safe Liberal seat.-Geography:... , Joondalup Electoral district of Joondalup Joondalup is an electoral district of the Legislative Assembly in the Australian state of Western Australia.The district is located in the northern suburbs of Perth.Joondalup has tended to be a marginal seat.-Geography:... , Kingsley Electoral district of Kingsley -External links:* ABC Election Profiles: * WAEC District Maps:... , Mindarie Electoral district of Mindarie The Electoral district of Mindarie is a Legislative Assembly electorate in the state of Western Australia. The district is named for the outer northern Perth suburb of Mindarie which falls within its borders.-History:... , Nedlands Electoral district of Nedlands The Electoral district of Nedlands is a Legislative Assembly electorate in the state of Western Australia. Nedlands is named for the inner western Perth suburb of Nedlands which falls within its borders.-History:... , Ocean Reef Electoral district of Ocean Reef The Electoral district of Ocean Reef is a Legislative Assembly electorate in the state of Western Australia. The district is named for the outer northern Perth suburb of Ocean Reef which falls within its borders.-History:... , Perth Electoral district of Perth The Electoral district of Perth is a Legislative Assembly electorate in the state of Western Australia. Perth is named for the capital city of Western Australia whose central business district falls within its borders. It is one of the oldest electorates in Western Australia, with its first member... , Scarborough Electoral district of Scarborough Scarborough is an electoral district of the Legislative Assembly in the Australian state of Western Australia.The district is a coastal electorate based in the northern suburbs of Perth and is named for the suburb of Scarborough... , Wanneroo Electoral district of Wanneroo -External links:* ABC Election Profiles: * WAEC District Maps:... (14) |
312,578 | 26.18% | 929 km² (358.7 sq mi) |
Distribution of seats
As 7-member seat:
As 6-member seat:
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Legend:
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Members
Since its creation, the electorate has had 20 members. Five of these members had previously been members of the Legislative Council—Joe BerinsonJoe Berinson
Joseph Max "Joe" Berinson is a former Labor member of the Australian House of Representatives from the 1969 election until his defeat by Ross McLean at the 1975 election, representing the division of Perth, Western Australia...
and Sam Piantadosi (both North Central Metropolitan
North Central Metropolitan Province
The North Central Metropolitan Province was a two-member electoral province of the Western Australian Legislative Council, located in metropolitan Perth. It was created by a redistribution in 1982, and took effect on 22 May 1983 following the 1983 state election...
), Graham Edwards
Graham Edwards (politician)
Graham John Edwards , Australian politician, was an Australian Labor Party member of the Australian House of Representatives from 1998 to 2007, representing the Division of Cowan....
and Bob Pike (both North Metropolitan
North Metropolitan Province
The North Metropolitan Province was a two-member electoral province of the Western Australian Legislative Council, located in metropolitan Perth. It was one of several metropolitan seats created following the enactment of the Constitution Acts Amendment Act 1963, and became effective on 22 May 1965...
) and Max Evans (Metropolitan
Metropolitan Province
The Metropolitan Province was a multi-member electoral province of the Western Australian Legislative Council, located in the metropolitan region of Perth. It was created by the Constitution Acts Amendment Act 1893, and became effective on 22 May 1894 following the first council elections following...
).
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Member | Party | 1989–93 | 1993–97 | 1997–01 | 2001–05 | 2005–09 | ||
Joe Berinson Joe Berinson Joseph Max "Joe" Berinson is a former Labor member of the Australian House of Representatives from the 1969 election until his defeat by Ross McLean at the 1975 election, representing the division of Perth, Western Australia... |
Labor | |||||||
Graham Edwards Graham Edwards (politician) Graham John Edwards , Australian politician, was an Australian Labor Party member of the Australian House of Representatives from 1998 to 2007, representing the Division of Cowan.... |
Labor Australian Labor Party The Australian Labor Party is an Australian political party. It has been the governing party of the Commonwealth of Australia since the 2007 federal election. Julia Gillard is the party's federal parliamentary leader and Prime Minister of Australia... |
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Sam Piantadosi | Labor | –1996 | ||||||
Ed Dermer Ed Dermer Edmund Rupert Joseph "Ed" Dermer born 30 October 1957 in Subiaco, Western Australia is an Australian politician. He is currently the member of the Western Australian Legislative Council representing the North Metropolitan Region... |
Labor | 1996– | ||||||
Ken Travers Ken Travers Kenneth "Ken" Dunstan Elder Travers born 1 February 1961 in Sussex, England is an Australian politician. He is currently the member of the Western Australian Legislative Council representing the North Metropolitan Region... |
Labor | |||||||
Graham Giffard Graham Giffard Graham Thomas Giffard is an Australian politician. He was a Labor member of the Western Australian Legislative Council from 2000 to 2008, representing the North Metropolitan Region.... |
Labor | –2008 | ||||||
Carolyn Burton Carolyn Burton Carolyn Anne Burton is an Australian politician. Born in Perth, Western Australia, she was a finance officer before entering politics. On 12 September 2008, she was elected to the Western Australian Legislative Council in a countback after the resignation of Graham Giffard; like Giffard, she is a... |
Labor | 2008– | ||||||
Bob Pike | Liberal Liberal Party of Australia The Liberal Party of Australia is an Australian political party.Founded a year after the 1943 federal election to replace the United Australia Party, the centre-right Liberal Party typically competes with the centre-left Australian Labor Party for political office... |
–1994 | ||||||
Iain MacLean Iain MacLean Iain MacLean is currently the head coach of Glasgow Storm basketball club, but is most noted for his time as a player for teams in both Scotland and Great Britain.... |
Liberal | 1994– | ||||||
Reg Davies Reg Davies Ellis Reginald Davies was a Welsh professional footballer who played for Southend United, Newcastle United, Swansea Town and Carlisle United, and won six caps for Wales.... |
Liberal/Ind. | |||||||
Ross Lightfoot Ross Lightfoot Philip Ross Lightfoot is a former Australian politician. He was a Liberal member of the Australian Senate from 1997 to 2008, representing the state of Western Australia.... |
Liberal | |||||||
Alan Cadby Alan Cadby Alan Cadby is an Australian politician. He was a member of the Western Australian Legislative Council from 2001 to 2005, representing the Liberal Party of Australia from 2001 to 2004, and serving as an independent from 2004 to 2005, for the seven-member North Metropolitan Region.He is most well... |
Liberal/Ind. | |||||||
Max Evans | Liberal | |||||||
George Cash George Cash Samuel Ernest Cash, AM is a former Australian politician, who represented the Liberal Party.... |
Liberal | |||||||
Ray Halligan Ray Halligan Ray Halligan was a Western Australian politician, who served in the Western Australian legislative Council from 1997 to 2009.... |
Liberal | |||||||
Peter Collier Peter Collier Peter Charles Collier is an Australian politician. He has been a Liberal member of the Western Australian Legislative Council since 2005, representing the North Metropolitan region... |
Liberal | |||||||
Liz Behjat Liz Behjat Elizabeth Lloyd "Liz" Behjat is an Australian politician. She was born in Wolverhampton, England, and arrived in Western Australia in 1966. Prior to entering politics, she was an electorate officer.... |
Liberal | |||||||
Michael Mischin Michael Mischin Michael Mischin is an Australian politician.Born in Subiaco, Western Australia, he was a barrister and solicitor before entering politics, and was Senior State Prosecutor with the Director of Public Prosecutions for Western Australia. He had received a Bachelor of Laws and Bachelor of... |
Liberal | |||||||
Helen Hodgson Helen Hodgson Helen Margaret Hodgson, née Applin , is a former Western Australian state politician of the Australian Democrats party. Born in Bristol, England, she migrated to Australia in 1963... |
Democrats Australian Democrats The Australian Democrats is an Australian political party espousing a socially liberal ideology. It was formed in 1977, by a merger of the Australia Party and the New LM, after principals of those minor parties secured the commitment of former Liberal minister Don Chipp, as a high profile leader... |
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Giz Watson Giz Watson -Biography:Watson was born in 1957 in Eastleigh, a town in Hampshire, England, and emigrated to Western Australia in September 1967, travelling extensively through the state. She studied environmental science at Murdoch University and, after leaving university to do voluntary work for a couple of... |
Greens WA | |||||||
Notes:
- Members serving for the 2009–2013 term were elected in 2008Western Australian state election, 2008A general election was held in the state of Western Australia on Saturday 6 September 2008 to elect 59 members to the Legislative Assembly and 36 members to the Legislative Council...
but do not take their seats in Parliament until 22 May 2009. - next term of office
- Reg DaviesReg DaviesEllis Reginald Davies was a Welsh professional footballer who played for Southend United, Newcastle United, Swansea Town and Carlisle United, and won six caps for Wales....
, elected as a Liberal, resigned from the party on 10 July 1991 and sat as an Independent. - Liberal MLC Bob Pike died on 26 April 1994. On 31 May 1994, Liberal member Iain MacLeanIain MacLeanIain MacLean is currently the head coach of Glasgow Storm basketball club, but is most noted for his time as a player for teams in both Scotland and Great Britain....
was appointed to the resulting casual vacancy. - In April 1996, Sam Piantadosi resigned from the Labor Party and continued to sit as an independent. He resigned on 19 November 1996 to contest the seat of YokineElectoral district of YokineYokine was a Legislative Assembly electorate in the state of Western Australia from 1996 to 2008. It was named for the northern Perth suburb of Yokine which fell within its borders...
at the 1996 electionWestern Australian state election, 1996Elections were held in the state of Western Australia on 14 December 1996 to elect all 57 members to the Legislative Assembly and all 34 members to the Legislative Council...
. On 24 December 1996, Labor member Ed DermerEd DermerEdmund Rupert Joseph "Ed" Dermer born 30 October 1957 in Subiaco, Western Australia is an Australian politician. He is currently the member of the Western Australian Legislative Council representing the North Metropolitan Region...
was appointed to the resulting casual vacancy. - Liberal MLC Iain MacLeanIain MacLeanIain MacLean is currently the head coach of Glasgow Storm basketball club, but is most noted for his time as a player for teams in both Scotland and Great Britain....
resigned on 19 November 1996 to contest the seat of WannerooElectoral district of Wanneroo-External links:* ABC Election Profiles: * WAEC District Maps:...
at the 1996 election. The resulting vacancy was not filled. - Liberal MLC Alan CadbyAlan CadbyAlan Cadby is an Australian politician. He was a member of the Western Australian Legislative Council from 2001 to 2005, representing the Liberal Party of Australia from 2001 to 2004, and serving as an independent from 2004 to 2005, for the seven-member North Metropolitan Region.He is most well...
resigned to sit as an independent on 2 June 2004, after losing Liberal pre-selection to recontest his seat at the 2005 electionWestern Australian state election, 2005Elections were held in the state of Western Australia on 26 February 2005 to elect all 57 members to the Legislative Assembly and all 34 members to the Legislative Council...
. - Labor MLC Graham GiffardGraham GiffardGraham Thomas Giffard is an Australian politician. He was a Labor member of the Western Australian Legislative Council from 2000 to 2008, representing the North Metropolitan Region....
resigned on 11 August 2008 in order to contest the Assembly seat of Swan HillsElectoral district of Swan Hills-External links:* ABC Election Profiles: * WAEC District Maps:...
in the election, where he was beaten by the Liberals' Frank AlbanFrank AlbanFrancesco Angelo "Frank" Alban is an Australian politician. He was born in Ostiglia, Italy, and arrived in Western Australia in February 1956. He has been a Liberal Party member of the Western Australian Legislative Assembly since the 2008 state election, representing Swan Hills...
. Carolyn BurtonCarolyn BurtonCarolyn Anne Burton is an Australian politician. Born in Perth, Western Australia, she was a finance officer before entering politics. On 12 September 2008, she was elected to the Western Australian Legislative Council in a countback after the resignation of Graham Giffard; like Giffard, she is a...
was elected in the resulting countback on 12 September 2008.