Sub Sub were an English

England

England is a country that is part of the United Kingdom. It shares land borders with Scotland to the north and Wales to the west; the Irish Sea is to the north west, the Celtic Sea to the south west, with the North Sea to the east and the English Channel to the south separating it from continental...

 dance act from Wilmslow

Wilmslow

-Economy:Wilmslow is well known, like Alderley Edge, for having many famous residents, notably footballers, stars of Coronation Street and rich North West businessmen. The town is part of the so-called Golden Triangle in the north west together with Alderley Edge and Prestbury...

, Cheshire

Cheshire

Cheshire is a ceremonial county in North West England. Cheshire's county town is the city of Chester, although its largest town is Warrington. Other major towns include Widnes, Congleton, Crewe, Ellesmere Port, Runcorn, Macclesfield, Winsford, Northwich, and Wilmslow...

 composed of Jimi Goodwin

Jimi Goodwin

Jimi Goodwin is the bassist, vocalist and guitarist for Doves. Before their incarnation as Doves, the three members were a dance-club music trio called Sub Sub....

 and twin brothers Andy

Andy Williams (Doves)

Andy Williams is the drummer and vocalist of Doves. He was born in Manchester, England, and he is also the twin brother of bandmate Jez...

 and Jez Williams

Jez Williams

Jez Williams is the guitarist/songwriter of Doves. He was born in Manchester, England, and he is also the twin brother of bandmate Andy...

.

The threesome met at school in 1985 and became regulars at The Haçienda

The Haçienda

Fac 51 Haçienda was a nightclub and music venue in Manchester, England. It became most famous during the "Madchester" years of the late 1980s and early 1990s, during the 1990s it was labelled the most famous club in the world by Newsweek magazine...

 while composing their own material together. They had an underground 12"

Gramophone record

A gramophone record, commonly known as a phonograph record , vinyl record , or colloquially, a record, is an analog sound storage medium consisting of a flat disc with an inscribed, modulated spiral groove...

 single

Single (music)

In music, a single or record single is a type of release, typically a recording of fewer tracks than an LP or a CD. This can be released for sale to the public in a variety of different formats. In most cases, the single is a song that is released separately from an album, but it can still appear...

 ("Space Face" in 1991) and moderate commercial success in the early 1990s on Rob Gretton

Rob Gretton

Rob Gretton was the manager of Joy Division and New Order. He was also a partner in Factory Records, proprietor of the Rob's Records label and a co-founder along with Tony Wilson of The Haçienda nightclub in Manchester, England. In 1977, Gretton became a leading figure in the Manchester punk...

's label Rob's Records

Rob's Records

Rob's Records is a Manchester record label belonging to Rob Gretton, former manager of Joy Division and New Order. Their first release was the single "Security" by the Miami-based band The Beat Club, with a remix by Bernard Sumner of New Order. Part owner of the nightclubs The Haçienda and Dry Bar,...

, including the single "Ain't No Love (Ain't No Use)

Ain't No Love (Ain't No Use)

"Ain't No Love " is a song by Sub Sub, released as a single in March 1993. It features Temper Temper's Melanie Williams on vocals. In the music video, Jimi Goodwin plays bass, Jez Williams plays keyboards and percussion, and Andy Williams plays keytar.This song was the act's biggest single,...

" (featuring guest vocalist Melanie Williams

Melanie Williams

Melanie Williams is a UK based singer. She is best known for singing on the hit single, "Ain't No Love " alongside the Manchester dance outfit Sub Sub .-Career:...

) which reached #3 on the UK Singles Chart

UK Singles Chart

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. The trio's only full-length album Full Fathom Five was released in September 1994.

After a fire destroyed their recording studio

Recording studio

A recording studio is a facility for sound recording and mixing. Ideally both the recording and monitoring spaces are specially designed by an acoustician to achieve optimum acoustic properties...

 on the Williams twins' birthday in 1996, they started anew as the more indie

Indie (music)

In music, independent music, often shortened to indie music or "indie" is a term used to describe independence from major commercial record labels or their subsidiaries, and an autonomous, Do-It-Yourself approach to recording and publishing....

-oriented act Doves in 1998. An unreleased collection of tracks meant to be featured on the band's second full-length album was issued in 1998 as Delta Tapes.

Albums

• Full Fathom Five (Rob's Records
  Rob's Records
  Rob's Records is a Manchester record label belonging to Rob Gretton, former manager of Joy Division and New Order. Their first release was the single "Security" by the Miami-based band The Beat Club, with a remix by Bernard Sumner of New Order. Part owner of the nightclubs The Haçienda and Dry Bar,...
  
  , ROB 30; September 1994)

1. "Coast"
2. "Angel" (featuring Nina Henchion)
3. "Valium Jazz"
4. "Southern Trees" (featuring Gill Jackson)
5. "Inside of This"
6. "Ain't No Love (Ain't No Use)" (featuring Melanie Williams
   Melanie Williams
   Melanie Williams is a UK based singer. She is best known for singing on the hit single, "Ain't No Love " alongside the Manchester dance outfit Sub Sub .-Career:...
   
   )
7. "Flute Track"
8. "Swamp"
9. "Respect" (featuring Nina Henchion)
10. "Past"

• Delta Tapes
  Delta Tapes
  Delta Tapes is a compilation album by '90s dance act, Sub Sub, in 1998. It is a demo album, rather than a straightforward studio album, but no studio albums would follow their 1994 debut, being as Sub Sub re-incarnated two years previous, in 1996, after their studio fire.- Tracklisting :All songs...
  
   (compilation album
  Compilation album
  A compilation album is an album featuring tracks from one or more performers, often culled from a variety of sources The tracks are usually collected according to a common characteristic, such as popularity, genre, source or subject matter...
  
  ; Cortex Records, February 1998)

1. "Crunch"
2. "This Time I'm Not Wrong" (featuring Bernard Sumner
   Bernard Sumner
   Bernard Sumner , also known as Bernard Dickin, Bernard Dicken and Bernard Albrecht is an English singer-songwriter, guitarist, keyboard player and producer....
   
   )
3. "Lost in Watts"
4. "Jaggernath"
5. "Firesuite"
6. "Smoking Beagles" (featuring Tricky
   Tricky
   Tricky is an English musician and actor. As a producer and a musician, he is noted for a dark, rich and layered sound and a whispering sprechgesang lyrical style. Culturally, Tricky encourages an intertwining of societies, particularly in his musical fusion of rock and hip hop, high art and pop...
   
   )
7. "Clear Blue Water"
8. "Heads Will Roll"
9. "Past"

Singles & EPs

• "Space Face" (Ten Records, January 1991)
• "Space Face" (Todd Terry Remixes) (Ten Records, January 1991)
• Coast EP (Rob's Records, ROB 7; June 1992)
• "Ain't No Love (Ain't No Use)
  Ain't No Love (Ain't No Use)
  "Ain't No Love " is a song by Sub Sub, released as a single in March 1993. It features Temper Temper's Melanie Williams on vocals. In the music video, Jimi Goodwin plays bass, Jez Williams plays keyboards and percussion, and Andy Williams plays keytar.This song was the act's biggest single,...
  
  " (Rob's Records, ROB 9; March 1993) - UK
  UK Singles Chart
  The UK Singles Chart is compiled by The Official Charts Company on behalf of the British record-industry. The full chart contains the top selling 200 singles in the United Kingdom based upon combined record sales and download numbers, though some media outlets only list the Top 40 or the Top 75 ...
  
  #3
• "Ain't No Love (Ain't No Use)" (On Remixes) (Rob's Records, ROB 9R; March 1993)
• "Respect" (Rob's Records, ROB 19; February 1994) - UK #49
• "Angel" (Rob's Records, ROB 29; August 1994)
• "Southern Trees" (Rob's Records, ROB 39; January 1995)
• "Smoking Beagles" (Rob's Records, ROB 51; December 1996)
• "This Time I'm Not Wrong" (Rob's Records, ROB 53; August 1997)

External links

• Complete Sub Sub discography at Discogs.com
• Accurate and up to date info finding Sub Sub's "Delta Tapes" on CD