Thanet derby
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The Thanet derby is the name given to football
matches between Margate
(known as Thanet United between 1981 and 1989) and Ramsgate
(known as Ramsgate Athletic until 1972), the two senior non-league
teams located on the Isle of Thanet
. The two clubs played each other regularly between 1946 and 1972 but did not then meet in league competition until 2006, when considerable local interest saw both clubs record their highest attendances of the season for the derby match.
for the 1946–47
season, and faced each other for the first time on Christmas Day 1946, with Margate winning 6–3 in front of a crowd of 2,500, the club's highest league gate of the season.
The Thanet derby took place every season until 1962–63
, switching to the Southern League
when both clubs joined that league after the collapse of the Kent League in 1959. In 1963 Margate gained promotion to the Southern League Premier Division, and the two clubs did not meet again until the 1966–67
season, when Margate returned to the Southern League Division One after being relegated. Margate were promoted back to the Premier Division at the first attempt and the clubs remained in different divisions until the 1972–73
season, when Ramsgate joined their rivals in the Premier Division after gaining promotion. The "Rams" were relegated after just one season in the Premier Division, however, and the two clubs then remained in different leagues for over thirty years and thus did not meet in league competition, although they were drawn to play each other twice in the FA Cup
, with Margate winning both matches. In the late 1980s and early 1990s a one-off challenge match between the two clubs, sponsored by a local newspaper and thus named the Isle of Thanet Gazette Cup, was played on five occasions, with each team winning on two occasions and the trophy being shared after a draw in the third match.
In the 2006–07
season, after Ramsgate secured two promotions in consecutive seasons, the two clubs met once again in the Isthmian League Premier Division. Local interest was high, and each club registered its highest attendance of the season for the Thanet derby match. The match at Margate's Hartsdown Park
stadium drew a crowd of 1,676, one of only two crowds over 800 at Margate that season. Similarly, the match at Ramsgate's Southwood ground was watched by 1,762 fans, nearly triple Ramsgate's second highest attendance of the season.
Football (soccer)
Association football, more commonly known as football or soccer, is a sport played between two teams of eleven players with a spherical ball...
matches between Margate
Margate F.C.
Margate Football Club is an English football team based in the seaside resort of Margate, Kent, currently playing in the Isthmian League Premier Division. The club was known for a number of years during the 1980s as Thanet United....
(known as Thanet United between 1981 and 1989) and Ramsgate
Ramsgate F.C.
Ramsgate Football Club are a football team based in Ramsgate, Kent. Having played for many years in the Kent League, they have been promoted for two consecutive seasons and spent the 2006-07 to 2008-09 seasons in the Isthmian League Premier Division....
(known as Ramsgate Athletic until 1972), the two senior non-league
Non-league football
Non-League football is football in England played at a level below that of the Premier League and The Football League. The term non-League was commonly used well before 1992 when the top football clubs in England all belonged to The Football League; all clubs who were not a part of The Football...
teams located on the Isle of Thanet
Isle of Thanet
The Isle of Thanet lies at the most easterly point of Kent, England. While in the past it was separated from the mainland by the nearly -wide River Wantsum, it is no longer an island ....
. The two clubs played each other regularly between 1946 and 1972 but did not then meet in league competition until 2006, when considerable local interest saw both clubs record their highest attendances of the season for the derby match.
History
Margate F.C. was formed in 1896 and played fixtures for many years against such Ramsgate teams as Ramsgate St George's and Ramsgate Town, but the modern Ramsgate club was not formed until 1945. Both clubs joined the Kent LeagueKent League
The Kent League is an English football league for teams based in Kent and south east London, which was established in 1966. It was also the name of a similar league which existed from 1894 until 1959.-History:...
for the 1946–47
1946-47 in English football
The 1946–47 season was the 67th season of competitive football in England.-Overview:The 1946–47 season was the first to feature a full football programme since the 1938–39 campaign. Eighty-eight teams competed over four divisions. Liverpool went top of the First Division with a 2–1 away win over...
season, and faced each other for the first time on Christmas Day 1946, with Margate winning 6–3 in front of a crowd of 2,500, the club's highest league gate of the season.
The Thanet derby took place every season until 1962–63
1962-63 in English football
The 1962–63 season was the 83rd season of competitive football in England.-Overview:*Everton won the League Championship, their first post-war title.*Manchester United won the FA Cup, their first major trophy since the Munich Air Disaster in 1958....
, switching to the Southern League
Southern Football League
The Southern League is an English football competition featuring semi-professional and amateur clubs from the South West, South Central and Midlands of England and South Wales...
when both clubs joined that league after the collapse of the Kent League in 1959. In 1963 Margate gained promotion to the Southern League Premier Division, and the two clubs did not meet again until the 1966–67
1966-67 in English football
The 1966–67 season was the 87th season of competitive football in England.-Events:Queens Park Rangers won the Football League Cup on the first occasion it was played at Wembley, coming from 2-0 down at half-time to beat West Bromwich Albion 3-2....
season, when Margate returned to the Southern League Division One after being relegated. Margate were promoted back to the Premier Division at the first attempt and the clubs remained in different divisions until the 1972–73
1972-73 in English football
The 1972–73 season was the 93rd season of competitive football in England.-Overview:The Football League announced that a three-up, three-down system would operate between the top two divisions from the following season, rather than the traditional two-up, two-down system...
season, when Ramsgate joined their rivals in the Premier Division after gaining promotion. The "Rams" were relegated after just one season in the Premier Division, however, and the two clubs then remained in different leagues for over thirty years and thus did not meet in league competition, although they were drawn to play each other twice in the FA Cup
FA Cup
The Football Association Challenge Cup, commonly known as the FA Cup, is a knockout cup competition in English football and is the oldest association football competition in the world. The "FA Cup" is run by and named after The Football Association and usually refers to the English men's...
, with Margate winning both matches. In the late 1980s and early 1990s a one-off challenge match between the two clubs, sponsored by a local newspaper and thus named the Isle of Thanet Gazette Cup, was played on five occasions, with each team winning on two occasions and the trophy being shared after a draw in the third match.
In the 2006–07
2006-07 in English football
The 2006–07 season was the 127th season of competitive football in England.-Overview:* The number of divisions at Level 8 of the English football league system increased from four to five...
season, after Ramsgate secured two promotions in consecutive seasons, the two clubs met once again in the Isthmian League Premier Division. Local interest was high, and each club registered its highest attendance of the season for the Thanet derby match. The match at Margate's Hartsdown Park
Hartsdown Park
Hartsdown Park is a football stadium located in Margate, Kent, England. It has been the home of Margate F.C. since 1929, apart from between 2002 and 2005, when the club was forced to share the grounds of other Kent clubs while protracted redevelopment work occurred.Although the football club was...
stadium drew a crowd of 1,676, one of only two crowds over 800 at Margate that season. Similarly, the match at Ramsgate's Southwood ground was watched by 1,762 fans, nearly triple Ramsgate's second highest attendance of the season.
League matches
| Season | League | At Margate | At Ramsgate |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1946–47 1946-47 in English football The 1946–47 season was the 67th season of competitive football in England.-Overview:The 1946–47 season was the first to feature a full football programme since the 1938–39 campaign. Eighty-eight teams competed over four divisions. Liverpool went top of the First Division with a 2–1 away win over... |
Kent League Kent League The Kent League is an English football league for teams based in Kent and south east London, which was established in 1966. It was also the name of a similar league which existed from 1894 until 1959.-History:... Division 1 |
6–3 | 1–1 |
| 1947–48 1947-48 in English football The 1947–48 season was the 68th season of competitive football in England.-Honours:Notes = Number in parentheses is the times that club has won that honour... |
Kent League Kent League The Kent League is an English football league for teams based in Kent and south east London, which was established in 1966. It was also the name of a similar league which existed from 1894 until 1959.-History:... Division 1 |
1–2 | 3–0 |
| 1948–49 1948-49 in English football The 1948–49 season was the 69th season of competitive football in England.-Overview:Portsmouth won the First Division title for the first time with a team of no recognised stars and very few international players. They won the league by five points from Manchester United and Derby... |
Kent League Kent League The Kent League is an English football league for teams based in Kent and south east London, which was established in 1966. It was also the name of a similar league which existed from 1894 until 1959.-History:... Division 1 |
1–2 | 1–0 |
| 1949–50 1949-50 in English football The 1949–50 season was the 70th season of competitive football in England.-Overview:Portsmouth retained the First Division title by one of the narrowest margins in history ahead of Wolverhampton Wanderers F.C.... |
Kent League Kent League The Kent League is an English football league for teams based in Kent and south east London, which was established in 1966. It was also the name of a similar league which existed from 1894 until 1959.-History:... Division 1 |
1–2 | 2–0 |
| 1950–51 1950-51 in English football The 1950–51 season was the 71st season of competitive football in England.-Overview:Tottenham Hotspur won their first League Championship, while Newcastle United defeated Blackpool 2–0 to win their fourth F.A. Cup. They would win it twice more over the next four seasons. The league was expanded... |
Kent League Kent League The Kent League is an English football league for teams based in Kent and south east London, which was established in 1966. It was also the name of a similar league which existed from 1894 until 1959.-History:... Division 1 |
2–1 | 5–4 |
| 1951–52 1951-52 in English football The 1951–52 season was the 72nd season of competitive football in England.-Honours:Notes = Number in parentheses is the times that club has won that honour... |
Kent League Kent League The Kent League is an English football league for teams based in Kent and south east London, which was established in 1966. It was also the name of a similar league which existed from 1894 until 1959.-History:... Division 1 |
0–0 | 0–0 |
| 1952–53 1952-53 in English football The 1952–53 season was the 73rd season of competitive football in England.-Events:This was the closest championship win in English league history at the time, with Arsenal claiming the title by just 0.099 of a goal. Both Arsenal and Preston had identical records aside from their goal averages... |
Kent League Kent League The Kent League is an English football league for teams based in Kent and south east London, which was established in 1966. It was also the name of a similar league which existed from 1894 until 1959.-History:... Division 1 |
2–5 | 0–1 |
| 1953–54 1953-54 in English football The 1953–54 season was the 74th season of competitive football in England.-National team:The Marvellous Magyars shocked football by defeating England 6–3 at Wembley Stadium.-Honours:... |
Kent League Kent League The Kent League is an English football league for teams based in Kent and south east London, which was established in 1966. It was also the name of a similar league which existed from 1894 until 1959.-History:... Division 1 |
0–2 | 2–3 |
| 1954–55 1954-55 in English football The 1954–1955 season was the 75th season of competitive football in England, from August 1954 to May 1955:-Overview:* Chelsea win the League Championship for the first time.* Newcastle United win the FA Cup.... |
Kent League Kent League The Kent League is an English football league for teams based in Kent and south east London, which was established in 1966. It was also the name of a similar league which existed from 1894 until 1959.-History:... Division 1 |
3–0 | 1–3 |
| 1955–56 1955-56 in English football The 1955–56 season was the 76th season of competitive football in England. The First Division was won by Manchester United, the fourth time they had won that particular accolade.-Awards:Football Writers' Association... |
Kent League Kent League The Kent League is an English football league for teams based in Kent and south east London, which was established in 1966. It was also the name of a similar league which existed from 1894 until 1959.-History:... Division 1 |
2–2 | 4–0 |
| 1956–57 1956-57 in English football The 1956–57 season was the 77th season of competitive football in England.Manchester United won the First Division to become English football champions for the fifth time. Tottenham Hotspur were runners-up. In the Second Division it was Leicester City who finished in top spot, ahead of East... |
Kent League Kent League The Kent League is an English football league for teams based in Kent and south east London, which was established in 1966. It was also the name of a similar league which existed from 1894 until 1959.-History:... Division 1 |
2–3 | 2–0 |
| 1957–58 1957-58 in English football The 1957–58 season was the 78th season of competitive football in England.-Overview:In this season, Sunderland was relegated for the first time in their history.This was the last season in which Division 3 was split, North and South... |
Kent League Kent League The Kent League is an English football league for teams based in Kent and south east London, which was established in 1966. It was also the name of a similar league which existed from 1894 until 1959.-History:... Division 1 |
1–0 | 1–0 |
| 1958–59 1958-59 in English football The 1958–59 season was the 79th season of competitive football in England.-Diary of the season:August 1958: The Football League season begins with the new national Third and Fourth divisions that have been created from the old Third Division North and Third Division South.September 1958: Manchester... |
Kent League Kent League The Kent League is an English football league for teams based in Kent and south east London, which was established in 1966. It was also the name of a similar league which existed from 1894 until 1959.-History:... Division 1 |
0–4 | 1–5 |
| 1959–60 1959-60 in English football The 1959–60 season was the 80th season of competitive football in England.-Diary of the season:17 November 1959: Phil Taylor resigns as manager of Liverpool after three years as manager, with all three of his seasons in charge ending with a narrow failure to win promotion to the First... |
Southern League Southern Football League The Southern League is an English football competition featuring semi-professional and amateur clubs from the South West, South Central and Midlands of England and South Wales... Division 1 |
0–2 | 3–1 |
| 1960–61 1960-61 in English football The 1960–61 season was the 81st season of competitive football in England.-Overview:This season was a historic one for domestic football in England, as Tottenham Hotspur F.C. became the first club in the twentieth century to "do the Double" by winning both the League and the FA Cup competitions... |
Southern League Southern Football League The Southern League is an English football competition featuring semi-professional and amateur clubs from the South West, South Central and Midlands of England and South Wales... Division 1 |
1–0 | 3–2 |
| 1961–62 1961-62 in English football The 1961–62 season was the 82nd season of competitive Football in England.-Overview:The season was notable for the remarkable achievement of Ipswich Town winning the League Championship. Under the managership of Alf Ramsey, the club progressed from the old Third Division South to the First Division... |
Southern League Southern Football League The Southern League is an English football competition featuring semi-professional and amateur clubs from the South West, South Central and Midlands of England and South Wales... Division 1 |
0–0 | 0–2 |
| 1962–63 1962-63 in English football The 1962–63 season was the 83rd season of competitive football in England.-Overview:*Everton won the League Championship, their first post-war title.*Manchester United won the FA Cup, their first major trophy since the Munich Air Disaster in 1958.... |
Southern League Southern Football League The Southern League is an English football competition featuring semi-professional and amateur clubs from the South West, South Central and Midlands of England and South Wales... Division 1 |
5–0 | 2–3 |
| 1966–67 1966-67 in English football The 1966–67 season was the 87th season of competitive football in England.-Events:Queens Park Rangers won the Football League Cup on the first occasion it was played at Wembley, coming from 2-0 down at half-time to beat West Bromwich Albion 3-2.... |
Southern League Southern Football League The Southern League is an English football competition featuring semi-professional and amateur clubs from the South West, South Central and Midlands of England and South Wales... Division 1 |
6–4 | 3–1 |
| 1972–73 1972-73 in English football The 1972–73 season was the 93rd season of competitive football in England.-Overview:The Football League announced that a three-up, three-down system would operate between the top two divisions from the following season, rather than the traditional two-up, two-down system... |
Southern League Southern Football League The Southern League is an English football competition featuring semi-professional and amateur clubs from the South West, South Central and Midlands of England and South Wales... Premier Division |
0–0 | 0–1 |
| 2006–07 2006-07 in English football The 2006–07 season was the 127th season of competitive football in England.-Overview:* The number of divisions at Level 8 of the English football league system increased from four to five... |
Isthmian League Isthmian League The Isthmian League is a regional football league covering London and South East England featuring semi-professional and amateur clubs. It is sponsored by Ryman, and therefore officially known as the Ryman League. It was founded in 1905 by amateur clubs in the London area... Premier Division |
1–0 | 1–1 |
| 2007–08 2007-08 in English football The 2007–08 season was the 128th season of competitive football in England.-European competitions:In October 2007 Arsenal equalled the UEFA Champions League record victory with a 7–0 win over Slavia Prague at the Emirates Stadium. The record was broken the following month when Liverpool... |
Isthmian League Isthmian League The Isthmian League is a regional football league covering London and South East England featuring semi-professional and amateur clubs. It is sponsored by Ryman, and therefore officially known as the Ryman League. It was founded in 1905 by amateur clubs in the London area... Premier Division |
1–1 | 1–0 |
FA Cup matches
| Season | Round | Venue | Result |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1967–68 1967-68 in English football The 1967–68 season was the 88th season of competitive football in England.-Honours:Notes = Number in parentheses is the times that club has won that honour. * indicates new record for competition-FA Cup:... |
Third Qualifying | Margate | Margate 6–4 Ramsgate Athletic |
| 1990–91 1990-91 in English football The 1990–91 season was the 111th season of competitive football in England.- First Division :Arsenal won the league. Runners-up spot was achieved by Liverpool, who had led the table for much of the first half of the season but had been shell-shocked in February by the sudden resignation of manager... |
Preliminary | Ramsgate | Ramsgate 0–1 Margate |
| 1999–00 | Second Qualifying | Ramsgate | Ramsgate 0–3 Margate |
Isle of Thanet Gazette Cup matches
| Season | Venue | Result |
|---|---|---|
| 1986–87 1986-87 in English football The 1986–87 season was the 107th season of competitive football in England.- First Division :The First Division championship went to Everton in their final season under the management of Howard Kendall before his departure to Athletic Bilbao. His side overcame a spate of injuries to fight off... |
Margate | Thanet United 4–0 Ramsgate |
| 1988–89 1988-89 in English football The 1988–89 season was the 109th season of competitive football in England.-Hillsborough disaster:On 15 April, a crowd crush at the FA Cup semi-final between Liverpool and Nottingham Forest at Hillsborough killed 94 people and injured more than 300. A 95th Liverpool supporter died in hospital... |
Ramsgate | Ramsgate 1–1 Thanet United |
| 1989–90 1989-90 in English football -European competitions:English clubs were still banned from competing in European competitions following the Heysel Stadium disaster.- First Division :... |
Margate | Margate 3–1 Ramsgate |
| 1990–91 1990-91 in English football The 1990–91 season was the 111th season of competitive football in England.- First Division :Arsenal won the league. Runners-up spot was achieved by Liverpool, who had led the table for much of the first half of the season but had been shell-shocked in February by the sudden resignation of manager... |
Ramsgate | Ramsgate 1–0 Margate |
| 1991–92 1991-92 in English football - First Division :The last-ever league championship before the creation of the Premier League was won by Leeds United who overhauled Manchester United thanks to the efforts of, among others, Gordon Strachan, Lee Chapman, David Batty, Gary Speed and Gary McAllister... |
Margate | Margate 1–3 Ramsgate |