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What fantasy are you talking about? Believing scientists who will do anything to get you to believe in their crazy theories is also fantasy.
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Relative time changes, real time has not changed.
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You are explaining relative time as you observe light and change and paricle acceleraters
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tBoone
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"What fantasy are you talking about? Believing scientists who will do anything to get you to believe in their crazy theories is also fantasy."

I believe the experimental evidence that shows it so. I think that's pretty hard to ignore.

"Relative time changes, real time has not changed." Again, more rubbish. I'll explain it to you one last time:

Time = change, therefore:
A lot of change = time moving quickly
A little change = time moving slowly
No change = time not moving

Apparently, what you call relative time is time moving and what you call real time is time standing still. I see no good reason to label them differently as well as the choice of words "relative" & "real."
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Academia produces a lot more Phds out of work, who in desperation will become the "Well Known " academic whore, who will prepare studies signed by themselves academically accredited and certified, and testify to its correctness in courts and tribunals, and have supporting Phd's to further verify its validability All done according to whatever the client wants the study results to illustrate. The cloutish courtrooms and tribunals are filled with pseudo-professionals and corrupt judges who inforce the willful acts of criminality upon society, completely ignoring ethics and logic. Our academic caste system graduates both hireling and nobility alike, and are in the " Education Business " for money and power. Its an institution, no longer fit for the use intended. However, perhaps your life has not brought you in direct contact with such rampant injustice, and If I had lived your life and had your experiences, I would say the same things as you. I have read your comments with interest and you have added to my frame of reference. Obviously we are not in accord on everything, but, I believe you are a sincere person, trying to do the right things in life. Perhaps you are like many a good people who live by the code. If you can't say anything nice, then don't say anything at all, or have tendencies in that direction, while I am different, we are all different, no one is the same. Hopefully we are both trying, in our own ways to do the right things. You may feel my negativity to be too severe, and you may look upon the old errors as transgenic truths, that are statements, while incorrect, have led us into truth by their very exposure. In that respect you may be mostly correct, however for the sake of pure truth I must say that ultimately, only truth will survive, and we require an everincreasing technical instrumentation of greater magnitudes to discover the real truths. Instrumentation is the product of practical physics, where mathmatics is not more complicated than the number 1, because nothing can be taken for granted, and original standards are required for all phases of new instrumentation, simply, for it to function.

I apologize about the parroting in listing the words " BAN TBOONE " it was used to illustrate just how insignificant " BAN ANYONE " actually is , in the free world.

And I would give my all for the entire world to be free, however, while the concept of actual time travel is so remote consideration of perceived validity may well hinge on spiritually, and even then
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Real time does not change or move. relative time is measurements of moving bodies. Ask any master teacher and they will tell you that real time in the eternal now. It does not move. You are stuck in some science crap that you were taught.
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"You are stuck in some science crap that you were taught." Science crap, that says it all.
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Replied to:  Relative time is measured by the movement of bodies, for example=the...

"Relative time is measured by the movement of bodies, for example=the earth spins once and that equals one day.
real time cannot be measured."

yes...thus, relative time is an illusion...correct?
This is what I'm trying to say with the concept that, in this universe, we measure time in a linear fashion...from beginning to end. We see time as a form of measurement and distance but, the true nature of time is NOT measurement and distance..it is...

what?

A single point? a infinite plane? a wave form?

if we are to talk of traveling through time, in opposition to it somehow, we must first decide what it is we are opposing.

If relative time is an illusion ...then, where can we find time as it truly exists?
is it possible for a three dimensional being(s) to understand a fourth dimension via math or any other language?

also, I have a question...forgive my ignorance:
C is a very large number, that's why we use a letter to name it because the number itself is almost unimaginable. We have no way of traveling even close to this speed and can only use other very large numbers to describe what might happen as we approach C and the validation of relativity is all about the numbers...correct?

the problem (in my mind) with moving faster than light is...how do we observe an object moving faster than the light it projects or reflects? How would it be visible? How would it be measurable?
If things that move faster than light exist...how would we know?
is it all just numbers and, if it is, why are we so beholden to those numbers? Hasn't it been PROVEN over and over that numbers can be fudged to say almost anything?

Dawn

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tBoone
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"Yes...thus, relative time is an illusion...correct?"
No. It's real...it's the "real time" that's the illusion. Time is change; we can observe it, define it, experience it, etc. Whereas this "real time" concept is just something someone pulled out of their bum. As such, it only exists in the imagination.

"...is it possible for a three dimensional being(s) to understand a fourth dimension via math or any other language?" Yes, but it doesn't mean that we can "see" it. We can conceptualize but not "see" it. And not just 4 geometric dimensions, but many more. Really, there is no mathematical limit. However, we have no empirical evidence of any 4th geometrical dimension.

"...If things that move faster than light exist...how would we know?" By noticing that the distance covered was covered in less time than it would take light, assuming that the super-luminal object can also slow down & stop; otherwise, it would be like the hypothetical tachyon which ONLY exists at speeds higher than light. But, as you have deduced, we could not interact with it nor it with us; not to mention that it is a PURELY hypothetical particle.
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Space time continium, or combining time with space is an effort to describe our universe. What lies beyond our universe is the question that contains the missing variables for time travel to become a coherent discussion.

We may already be traveling faster than the speed of light. The prospect of time travel began before einstein. As science fiction delves ever deeper into the realm of possibilities, given the everexpanding limitations of mankinds literacy, Educational theoretical physics, always at the helm and on the ready to sell another theory (Made easy with the acceptance of axioms , or fixed constant values, without valid premise) virtually anything can be said by those who pay for academic credentials and books written and theories taught at academia, which is definitely the tail wagging the dog, and a short tailed dog it is, as the theories are being discarded almost faster than they appear.

However the ideas appearing on this forum, you must admit, are interesting, intellectually, sort of, sometimes, or not, or whatever
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jackiecox
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Space time continium is an attempt to define our universe. Time travel can only be speculation, or theory, since we need to know what lies beyond our universe to have access to the variables necessary to determine if time travel is possible, since it attempts to relate the speed of light, another failed attempt at a unified quantity of measure, where we are again missing variables attainable once we determine what lies beyond the confines of our universe. It is within the realm of possibility we are already traveling faster than the so-called speed of light.

when we consider the earth travels at about 79,000 miles per hour around the sun, and the sun moves at about 200 meters per second around the center of the galazy which it may well orbit around 225, or 259 million years, and the galaxy itself travels around 600 meters per second in relationship to the other galaxies around us.

Nasa was at the leading edge of astrophysical science before being taken down by the new pres and put in the unstable wired hands of someone who dropped out of physics school after 2 days, but then again science isn't really a scientific realm, political science is kind of a study on professional swindeling.

The real professionals developing the next generation shuttle, and a manned return to mars was scrapped by his lordship and replaced by an appolo makeover, rocketry science once again rediscovered by the unknowing with the goal of delivering men to space station without the means of returning them.

Politically it appears we are actually traveling backwards in time
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replied to:  lehmann520
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Apparently relative time has nothing to do with real time.

If I were moving faster than light why would you have to see me? You don't need to see it, just do it in order to save time in space travel. But I see the dangers-yes, How can you see where you are going? etc.
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Do you ever feel like you are sitting in a room populated by those horrible creatures whose poetry kills ( I can't recall the names) from the Hitch Hiker's Guide...and you are certain you are just having a bad dream...then you realize you're not... and then your head feels like it might explode...

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An event where one becomes aware of a passage of time in an 'instant' may occur in petit mal seizures or other neurological events.
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The entire idea of time travel was put to rest in IRON MAN 2, At the beginning of the movey some wingnut suggested to Stark that electric airplanes is the answer. I wonder what HE ment by electric, but it must be the answer to something, since his highness, and assoc. is funding it. After an evaluation of the electric car company backlog, the locations and number of showrooms, and the CEO international flight pattern potentials, I see the world class mafia have finally figured out a way to replace the helicopter deliveries from canada into the usa ( The real deal from columbia goes down through the north face. southern borders are small change ) And now the mule travels by airplane, his own. Real poetry, if you can figure it out. Does electric airplane ryme with electric windowpain. If so then thats the answer to time travel, yep, stark and olon figured out the hole thang
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Iron Man 2 is just a movie. If we are using the iron man movie as a reason for believing in time travel, then I guess Doc Brown from Back to the Future, must be given credit for thinking of the flux capacitor. This is something we must look into huh???? Maybe we should advise our best scientists of this flux capacitor thing??? hahaha
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As an ordinary man, time travel is impossible because the required speed in normal movement from one place to another must not harmful or destructive to fragile/prone to injuries/ physical bodies.even the intellect beings must developed first the technology to attune their bodies to certain forms of energies in order for them to travel in space at a sonic rate of speed like what the extraterrestials did.but travel time to go backward or return to past events is unrealistic.
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What is this strange machine? It has a picture on it, and letter keys, and putting ones fingers to them creates a letter, and adding more letters I can form words and sentences? The question that begs an answer is...where am I?

Am I still in my home in Athens? or with the gods...or has all my work on mathematics gone to my head?

I will go and talk to Socrates, maybe he can explain the reasons behind my befuddled mind.....
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jackiecox
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If you could travel to the future, then how could you return to the past, if what you say is true, that time travel to the past is impossible, yet time travel to the future is possible, then, you would simply end up at some future time armed with antiquated knowledge, claiming to be from the past. First you would be declared delusional, next there would be counseling, you would seem to be someone whom had lost his mind, unaware of the current instrumentation, they would probably put you somewhere you would not like to be, and there you would be. Stuck unable to go home.

If you can't travel into the past, it would make little sense to go into the future, No one, posessed with normal sanity would believe you-ha-ha-ha
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Replied to:  "Yes...thus, relative time is an illusion...correct?" No. It's real...it's the "real...
Tachyon fields could, by some, be considered the matter black holes are composed of, vibrating at a resonant wave frequency, shorter than known energy waves, light, gamma, beta, etc, a frequency beyond our instrumentation, or math constructs. Remember when plutonium was only a space in madam curries mind, perhaps the particle accelerators which predict tachyon's, have also exposed more than 100 other previously unknown particles, matter is composed of, returning us to the realm of John Claude Keelys aether, or what he described as a form of matter totally invasive, omnipresent, which would require perhaps more than a hundred years to develop the instrumentation to even began to detect. Aether, as you know, the stuff which the resonamt wave frequencies travel through, or what you may call the electromagnetic spectrum, which has just gotten a lot more complex, downsizing the current theories that makeup the periodic tables and the idea that the illustrated elemental data is matter which may not be further reduced. Yet here we are, in this time and space, identifing matter a lot smaller and infinitely more complex. To me its an exciting time to be alive, the idea of new material science discoveries, or discovering compounds that surpass our existing compounds and bring our instrumentation magnitudes further, The possibilities of what we could accomplish are virtually mind boggling. Imagine materials enabling instrumentation able to enter the sun, or turbines made with materials able to withstand nuclear wave frequencies and amplitudes.Even actual wave fields able to withstand collision in outer space traveling at almost unbelievable speeds, Imagine space travel, nuclear powered using water, or whatever, as the source, or separating H and enabling fusion, to power craft using nuclear explosions as the propelling force, and the speeds attainable, in the lighter atmospheres between planets, above or below the axis centers of all visable galaxies. Light years would be a word which passed into time. Vibratory wave theory,a realm where areality becomes a reality. Or is my imagination carrying me too far into the future without actually going there
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Hello jackiecox.

I think "faith" is trying to say that "she" considers faith and love as the same.

Now, what really you looking for? :)

In your last reply to me,if am not wrong, you made it clear that you do not belive or count much on the free thinking despite yours so much freed expresion of thought.(At least that is how I understood it.)

I think you should be more direct some times.

Moving in circles and trying to cover all areas,white black and grey at once is like "time travel" without the ability to experience it. :)

I like you and your writing. Do not doubt it, but some times you loose me.
Some times can not be sure about the line or the point you trying to get at.

"Time travel" without the ability to experience it is only a fantasy (but still inside the pool of the projected possibilities).A starting point maybe,but not more than that, I think. :)

By the way,does the word "CICAMASTER" have any meaning?!?

cheers.



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Earthseed
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Forward time travel may be possible, but I don't think backward time travel is possible.

If someone were to travel backward in time, the time from which they left would have less matter/energy, and the past time at which they arrived would have more matter/energy. Isn't this ruled out by the laws of conservation of matter/energy?

But I'm no physicist, so I can't be certain of this.
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actually there is an empirical matrix where you can insert actual variables, and hypothetical variables as well, all you have to do is determine the standard or value the imposed logic has in ralationship to the element the math platform is expressed in, then since its an algebraic matrix, simply divide the value into 1, and observe the prediction of the elemental subjects state in the future using the valid and the imposed logic combined. In practical physics, such constructs have no place, since the imposed logic is beyond our instrumental ability to measure. Hey ! pharmacy companies do it all the time, then they began the real experiment on people to see if the imposed values are real. The lawyers in the medical domain are not technically qualified to make a decision, but political protocal allows the laws enabling human experimentation to continue, since people are cheaper than chimps, its an easier analysis, and since the pharmacy companies and their lobbyst possess courtroom clout, the diseased, damaged, and dead human chimp replacements get nothing in return for their terminated or ruined lives, Its all in the contractual interpretation imposed on the courts decision by the tribunal, normally such matters wind up in some politically agressive D. A. 's jurisdiction with his good friend the judge and the pharm group counsel, its a greens decision. Like the obamacare, where clout and courtroom fools rule.

Ever hear of seroquel, hidden among the epidemic of diabetes
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jackiecox
05/10/10replied to: tBooneTachyon fields could, by some, be considered the matter black holes are composed of, vibrating at a resonant wave frequency, shorter than known energy waves, light, gamma, beta, etc, a frequency beyond our instrumentation, or math constructs. Remember when plutonium was only a space in madam curries mind, perhaps the particle accelerators which predict tachyon's, have also exposed more than 100 other previously unknown particles, matter is composed of, returning us to the realm of John Claude Keelys aether, or what he described as a form of matter totally invasive, omnipresent, which would require perhaps more than a hundred years to develop the instrumentation to even began to detect. Aether, as you know, the stuff which the resonamt wave frequencies travel through, or what you may call the electromagnetic spectrum, which has just gotten a lot more complex, downsizing the current theories that makeup the periodic tables and the idea that the illustrated elemental data is matter which may not be further reduced. Yet here we are, in this time and space, identifing matter a lot smaller and infinitely more complex. To me its an exciting time to be alive, the idea of new material science discoveries, or discovering compounds that surpass our existing compounds and bring our instrumentation magnitudes further, The possibilities of what we could accomplish are virtually mind boggling. Imagine materials enabling instrumentation able to enter the sun, or turbines made with materials able to withstand nuclear wave frequencies and amplitudes.Even actual wave fields able to withstand collision in outer space traveling at almost unbelievable speeds, Imagine space travel, nuclear powered using water, or whatever, as the source, or separating H and enabling fusion, to power craft using nuclear explosions as the propelling force, and the speeds attainable, in the lighter atmospheres between planets, above or below the axis centers of all visable galaxies. Light years would be a word which passed into time. Vibratory wave theory,a realm where areality becomes a reality. Or is my imagination carrying me too far into the future without actually going there
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Idiocy never ceases to amaze me, The reality is that if you live for the purpose you were sent here to fullfil, then perhaps you will return to the place you were before you came here.


" Time Travel " a primative word construct, albeit an opportunity to further thought, if unaltered by the likes of you, and the others you pretend to be.
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tBoone
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"Ofcourse,it is possible to mankind but we didnt improve up to that ,the journey of going into past & future good thought at present scenario every body watching out for a new world if d time travelling happens its good." -9985357450

Actually, time travel to the future is possible: it's happening right now! Also, the closer you get to c the faster you get to the future. That's why time clocks on space craft have come back with "slower" time than those on earth.
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tBoone
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"Forward time travel may be possible, but I don't think backward time travel is possible.

If someone were to travel backward in time, the time from which they left would have less matter/energy, and the past time at which the arrived would have more matter/energy. Isn't his ruled out by the laws of conservation of matter/energy?

But I'm no physicist, so I can't be certain of this." -Earthseed

You are correct.
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jackiecox333
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The system administrator is playing with the forum posts, first removing timeline sequencies of posts, then putting some back, but not all, It makes no sense, I have reported it to ABOSOLUTE ASTRONOMY, and if it continues, to higher power, as such conduct is against forum software sgreement rules, and could result in being banned

case in point, my posts were made using my name jackie cox, the icon I selected was the earth.

The the system administrator entered the data base, gained access to my passwrod, and changed my name to jackiecox333, and my icon to the globe.

I reported this stunt, and a lot of senseless posts vanished.

This forum is interesting, and has creative posts that encourage more thought, I can understand no one is the same, and are subject to continual change, I blame no one, or judge them for their actions, however, respect is something if ignored that can lead to disarray, and destroy the property, time etc etc, of others.

therefore system software forum agreements have limitations that do not encourage cyberbullys, I am in accord
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Haha I do not think time travel is possible for us humans. However, we are not the only beings in the universe. Perhaps someone in some other part of the universe has the ability to time travel. They are probably not aware of us, just as we are not aware of them. We ourselves are in a remote part of the galaxy and will never have the ability to move beyond our place. Therefore we will never meet anyone who can time travel, so for us, it is impossible. :)
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Time travel is impossible the future and the past are imagenary the only thing real is the present so if you dont know whats going to happen how can you go there
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timbits
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You cant go to the future it hasent happend yet anything can change
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jackiecox333
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I forgive you-------The point of time travel applied to optical resolution, permitting us to magnify sources of light, or enlarge each location of light, either reflected from a source of light or light sources, exist at some given distance away from the point of sight, or observation, If a star or galiaxy formation exists at what our math defines at 100 thousand light years away, and we view that source of light (energy) through a concave and/or convex lens system we design through reflective and mirror systems , depending on the radius of the various lens systems, each of which has a focal length determined by the diameter and the radius of the lens. these changes in multiple lens, focal lengths can make something that may be 100 light years away as a few light years away, much closer, vastly increasing our speed of light, because when we condense the energy, we increase the amplitude, then entering into another lens systems allows to see increased detail. It appears, by being closer we have reduced the time required to travel this great distance with optical resolution. We essentially traveled 100 light years, in what optically appears say 5 light years or less. Things within the energy source, invisable, beyond optical infinity, because of better resolution, come into view, visually we have traveled faster than the speed of light, by magnitudes, into the future, or not, we did accomplish the distance, visually, bring the object into a closer view, and because of energy changes as planets go between the sun and our optical equipment are able to become aware of other planets.Whether or not, we are able to send paranormal sources of energy ( by designing optical energy systems with amplitudes strong enough to go the distance ) would mean we have defeated time, and therefore gone into the future, with optical/energy systems, possessing frequencies and amplitudes created by instrumentation, using materials conceivable , but not yet attained, or not. This discussion discludes radio telescopes because its alate and would require so much more detail to expalin, however relavent,

Madam Curries mate Pierre was studying crystalography (possibly the direction required for new materials) before changing over to madam Curries study of nuclear materials, and devoted his energys in creating the worlds first instrument able to detect the difference in radiation emitted indicating the actual new elements, each having different wave frequencies.Some other guy Jacques was also involved, A devise more well known than his resonant frequency detection equipment is the geiger counter, now a host of resonant wave detection devises exists and have been imported into virtually all communication devises, and range from multiple spectrum analyzers who are used for such things like automobile maintanance equipment to cell phones and lap tops etc etc, the ic's, semiconductors, chips (Transistors) etc installed on the printed circuit boards (Mother Boards). Metrology, or computer embedded equipment already dominates the industrial and consumer world. How much longer, until optical (lensed) transmitters actually accomplish the event of virtual time travel, into planetary systems of our own chosing ?
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GigaMaster
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I think there is something seriously wrong you. We here just want to talk about time travel. nothing else. We want to know if out HUMAN BODIES alone can time travel. no useless facts that are not relevant to topic. (sigh)
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jackiecox333
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Traveling through time and space, by drone, which is out of body, may be as close as we get to space to space time continium travel in our present view of the future. from a practical working physics angle.

But thats just my view point, NASA was using a similar approach, Look where it got them, Obama and assoc. are planning to do it with elon musk, or privatize the space study thang, or let israel take over our planning, perhaps we could let china do the research and then sell their results at walmarts and sams club, an angle even someone like you could understand. then we could sell space barbie dolls, painted wirh lead house paint for the children to teeth on, it makes sense, a doctor stimulus package in the making, and the kids could hallucinate in there HUMAN BODIES playing space travel, like moses
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jackiecox333
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(sigh)

vigil69
05/08/10Please do not play with the words.

In physics, and analyzing its results, is of most importance to define who is the experimenter, what is the object of the experiment, which are physical elements involved and what is the precision required to the results of the measurements.

If you want to invent a time-machine that looks like a 'telephone both' that you enter, you dial the time and coordinates of destination in its keyboard, and PANG! you are there in a fully "complete" environment of the chosen time, then, you are thinking in a way that contradicts itself. You do not really understand what you intend to do.
Because you are not at the cinema in some kind of show that you are looking-at from "outside". You (and your both) are a part of that picture.
In physics, to measure (to see) without corrupting the object to be measured, simply does not exist. Actually, one of your main concerns when taking samples of the reality should be to convince yourself that your probes are not altering that reality in such a way that your measurements are not longer relevant.

If you travel back in time to a place where you never have been before ( say, Rome 1857 ), then that reality and environment will (by definition) NOT be "the real one" for that time. Your presence there (your body starting to interact with other parts of that reality at the very instant when you and your both "arrive") makes it per-definition a different place. You can´t be in a place without modifying it. OK? It does not matter if you are a virus or Tyrannosaurus Rex.

Consequently, you have to think that what is going wrong probably is that your question is not well formulated.
May be it has a grammatical structure that is correct and that all the words used exist in your language. But the "question" carries in its own a contradiction that cannot be solved unless you abandon your own notions of time and logics. In that case you are abusing of the meaning you give to the words "logic", "time", "travel", "machine", etc giving to them different meanings depending on if you are asking or answering.
The time-machine does not exist and will never exist in the terms presented here, if you do not define beforehand what it will accomplish and how you are going to evaluate its inputs and outputs; as "in which grade" the results will be considered as reached and how long you are prepared to tolerate its own "corrupting" factor.
Try to understand first, more precisely, the qualities and properties of that machine, that is, what it will be able to accomplish and how big is the amount of "corruption" you are able to tolerate to be introduced by that device.

Let me present you another example of a wrong-formulated question: "Can the "Almighty Lord" create such a heavy stone that He then, cannot lift it up".
I is quite obvious that we are formulating a logically correct question that shows that the "Almighty" does not exist: if HE can do one thing, He, then, can not the other.
We just do not understand what the word almighty actually means.

However, seen from other point of view, the time machine "Tima" exists already. I'm not joking.
She can really travel back in time and achieve the retrieval of a good part of the data from that "world".
Tima can do it as many times in a row as you want going back in time several years.
Probably, as any other conceivable time-machine, it fails as She cannot act over all the elements of the universe. Just on a restricted part of them. Still Tima's results are very, very, good; showing extraordinary precision and data-quality.
Besides that, She permits the operator to introduce modifications in the reality and study in detail the implications of those changes.

Tima is the Audio Recorder/Reproducer.

You are now, of course, immediately tempted to argue
- "This is NOT a true time-machine. Where is the 'both' with a keyboard that we were talking about."
And I will reply:
- "Really? Please put in precise words why She isn´t"
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jackiecox333
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Giga master, what happened to all those meaningless (or Not) posts you filled the site with ? And how is optical resolution, used to defeat time in our space time continium unrelated to space travel. there is something seriously wrong you. I am reporting you again to the topic administrators for your continual cyberbullying and altering my name and icon appearing on my blogs. Seriously, do you actually think you will be able to infringe the forum software agreement and win ? You do not own the software, and must abide by the rules, system administrators are not immune to software agreements. They like anyone else can be restricted, You make have to change your name, and the multiple personality (Other Minions) you admitt to using is not a nice, respectful thing to do. Show respect, and get respect. This forum was more appropriate before you posted all that spam. Why would you do things like that ? If you have mental problems , its ok with me, but simply respect, try it, its fun
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GigaMaster
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Lol You are insane!! Again I am not the system admin, so when you are reporting me, it's all for nothing. However if I was I might do the same thing to u. It's pretty funny. Whoever is doing this to your account is awesome. I am on their side. You are always complaining and rambling off topic. Maybe the system admin. is tired of your crap. I really seriously want to have a real discussion on time travel, but it's hard when you post your paranoid conspiracy about how everyone is out to get you. Maybe if you realize that your actions are causing all of these things to happen to you, then things would maybe change. My icon is changed and you don't see me complaining about it. hahah I hope you get better. :)
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jackiecox3333
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Yes. I think you are right. We must stay on the topic of time travel.
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You claimed to be he system administrator, and posted those long and meaningless, or not posts about this is your world, and asked the forum members to write the words ' BAN JACKIE COX, T Boone did, then others put in their 2 cent worth and you filled the site with bizarre data, i followed suit to show you what it looked like, all the rediculous post dissappeared. one day you say one thing, next day, something else, your are meaningless, and are wasting your time as intellectually you don't appear capable of discussing the subject. this is my last response to your senseless dialogue, if you don't change. Good luck in your life
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Lol What??? I have never claimed to be the site admin. If you keep up with this delusional state perhaps the men in white will put u in a little jacket and take u away. In fact I think it would be a wonderful idea if u would follow through with what u said and take a break from posting on here. I think u should just leave this site forever, so that way we can get back on topic and have meaningful discussions on time travel. Thanks for wishing me luck but I don't believe in luck. Hard work and sane thinking is what gets u anywhere's in life. Like I said before, I hope u get better. :)
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Your nothing but lies and deceit
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Lol Here we go again. lol Your last post just said that u would not respond to me again. It is obvious to everyone but yourself, that u are the one who spews out lies and deceit. Everytime I read anything u post, it makes me want to shoot blood from my eyes. Nobody on here has ever cyber-bullied u in any way shape or form. Everything is in your mind. I can see now that when u were in High School, u were the kid that all the jocks stuffed in the locker. This is sad and unfortunate for u, but please don't let your traumatic teenage years affect your mental state, or what u are posting. Again this is a time travel forum and I just wish that u would rather not post anything if u don't stay on topic. I hope you get better. :)
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03/31/10replied to: euc1Time travel is not possible. Even if it were, we are not even close to being able to understand how it could be done. In a thousand years or so maybe we might be an inch closer, so all of you guys participating in this blog from the basement of your parents house (haha) will have long been dead and forgotten by then.
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I fail to see why u re-posted something I wrote almost 2 months ago?? I stand by what I said then. I don't believe time travel is possible, and it's a scientific fact made by all of the world's leading scientits including Hawkings, that it may take a thousand years or so to even gain anymore knoweldge about how it can be done. Also since you are so childish and easily offended, I am assuming that when you post, you are doing so from the basement of your parents house. So, I stand by my statement and rest my case. I hope you get better soon. :)
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The point of time travel applied to optical resolution, permitting us to magnify sources of light, or enlarge each location of light, either reflected from a source of light or light sources, exist at some given distance away from the point of sight, or observation, If a star or galiaxy formation exists at what our math defines as 100 thousand light years away, and we view that source of light (energy) through a concave and/or convex lens system we design through reflective and mirror systems , depending on the radius of the various lens systems, each of which has a focal length determined by the diameter and the radius of the lens. these changes in multiple lens, focal lengths can make something that may be 100 light years away as a few light years away, or much less, much closer, vastly increasing our speed of light, because when we condense the energy, we increase the amplitude, then entering into another lens systems allows to see increased detail. It appears, by being closer we have reduced the time required to travel this great distance with optical resolution. We essentially traveled 100 light years, in what optically appears say 5 light years or less. Things within the energy source, invisable, beyond optical infinity, because of better resolution, come into view, visually we have traveled faster than the speed of light, by magnitudes, into the future, or not, we did accomplish the distance, visually, bring the object into a closer view, and because of energy changes as planets go between the sun and our optical equipment are able to become aware of other planets.Whether or not, we are able to send paranormal sources of energy ( by designing optical energy systems with amplitudes strong enough to go the distance ) would mean we have defeated time, and therefore gone into the future, with optical/energy systems, possessing frequencies and amplitudes created by instrumentation, using materials conceivable , but not yet attained, or not. This discussion discludes radio telescopes because its alate and would require so much more detail to expalin, however relavent,

Madam Curries mate Pierre was studying crystalography (possibly the direction required for new materials) before changing over to madam Curries study of nuclear materials, and devoted his energys in creating the worlds first instrument able to detect the difference in radiation emitted indicating the actual new elements, each having different wave frequencies.Some other guy Jacques was also involved, A devise more well known than his resonant frequency detection equipment is the geiger counter, now a host of resonant wave detection devises exists and have been imported into virtually all communication devises, and range from multiple spectrum analyzers who are used for such things like automobile maintanance equipment to cell phones and lap tops etc etc, the ic's, semiconductors, chips (Transistors) etc installed on the printed circuit boards (Mother Boards). Metrology, or computer embedded equipment already dominates the industrial and consumer world. How much longer, until optical (lensed) transmitters actually accomplish the event of virtual time travel, into planetary systems of our own chosing ?

Is your problem one of patience to read the posts , or do you not have the moxy to understand the complexity of such data, or, could it be you, the one in the dim room and perhaps an uncorrected vision problem you try and hide with senseless garble, or, is short verbal piesies of merde the extent of your capabilities of comminicating.


What happened to all those posts you made ? they just disappeared from the site,

Like you who stated you would shut up
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Haha I do not think time travel is possible for us humans. However, we are not the only beings in the universe. Perhaps someone in some other part of the universe has the ability to time travel. They are probably not aware of us, just as we are not aware of them. We ourselves are in a remote part of the galaxy and will never have the ability to move beyond our place. Therefore we will never meet anyone who can time travel, so for us, it is impossible. :)
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My problem doesn't have anything to do with patience, to which I have plenty of. Clearly u are tempting with the powers that be on this site. What will it take for us normal people on this site to get through to u??? Clearly your underdeveloped Cro-Magnon brain of yours, doesn't have the simple capacity to understand what normal discussion is. Maybe u will understand if I cap it for u?? WE DON'T WANT JACKIECOX333 ON THIS SITE ANYMORE. You ask me what happened to posts that were previously posted on here. To which ones are u referring to??? I can't find any in existence. Do you often find yourself befuddled because you're imagining things that never was?? Maybe like posts on here that never was??? hahaha Maybe you are one of those weirdos who watched Avatar too many times until your mind cracked??? Or perhaps you are a Michael Moore nut??? Whatever your case is, please seek help. Maybe a heavy dose of meds might help??? I dunno. Whatever evil that befalls you on this site from now on, I shall wash my hands off. hahahaha May you pray to the god of your choice. hahaha BTW, I hope you get better. :)
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Ayush1993
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Yes it is possible but we cannot go to past we can try to go to the future
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In the event that one could "Time Travel" to the past this would instantly form a new universal existence (or secondary time-line), because having arrived at some point in the past forever alters that which follows. If you went back in time and it somehow resulted in the death of your father before he had a child you would not 'wink out' of existence. That man never had a child, so he is an alternate universe version of the man you knew as your father.
This also means that if someone from a point in our future traveled back in time we would never know about it because the past he traveled to exists in a universe different from ours. There is zero possibility of a paradox.
The pocket-watch scenario is simply a causality loop that creates one alternate universe after another. Whoever gave him the watch in the first version of these universes is irrelevant.
So, I didn't provide a 'yes-or-no' answer to the probability of the science of time travel, but if it becomes possible in the future, we (in this version of our universe) will not know until it is created in our present.
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The concept of multiple times lines and universes is so flawed I am staggered that anyone who thinks for more than two seconds in a row can possibly imagine it might be valid.

on the other hand, it is really the only way you can imagine time travel TO exist. So, if you are pro-travel, then of course you live in the multi-verse.

I would like to point out that, for us, time travel is a matter of imagination. If you try to twist science into backing up your dreams what you end up with is not science, it is science fiction.

time travel is not possible in a linear state such as we exist in but, if we could exist in a singular state then 'time travel' would be like looking out the window, but that is the only way I see it could be done and I'm not certain I can think of a way to exist in a singular state.

What do you think Jackie. You're probably the only one who would get what I'm saying...
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